in the veiw explorer :) sorry
On May 22, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > flash menu? > > Rob > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected] > > wrote: > I found the flash menu :) > and this is cool > > Stef > > On May 22, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Steve Wirts wrote: > > > I like Arial, and I think it's a very common font available on most > > platforms..... > > > > | aStandardFont aBoldFont | > > > > > > aStandardFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 9 > > stretchValue: 5 weightValue: 400 slantValue: 0. > > aBoldFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 9 > > stretchValue: 5 weightValue: 700 slantValue: 0. > > > > Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: aBoldFont. > > Preferences setEToysTitleFontTo: aBoldFont. > > Preferences setFlapsFontTo: aBoldFont. > > Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setButtonFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setCodeFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setEToysFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setListFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setMenuFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setPaintBoxButtonFontTo: aStandardFont. > > Preferences setSystemFontTo: aStandardFont. > > > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > What you do not like OBPackageAdaptor... Great Squeakish ui. > > > > Stef > > > > On May 22, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > > > > > > On May 22, 2009, at 14:19 , Tudor Girba wrote: > > > > > >> I certainly will not try to enforce it on anybody :). > > >> > > >> The reason why I used condensed bold for the title and menu is > that > > >> because we have so many of them both windows and menus, it is > > >> difficult to identify them. So, I want to quickly spot the title > > when > > >> hovering over the tabs at the bottom which is not accomplishable. > > > > > > Then we should probably fix that the label of the tab shows what > you > > > need to know (I assume the class name). Currently, the class > name is > > > prefixed with "System Browser: ", which uses up all the space as > > soon > > > as one has several open windows. I would just remove "System > > Browser: > > > " in the window title and tab label and only print the class name. > > > Would that help? > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > >> As > > >> for the menus, I just find them easier to grasp in this way. > > >> > > >> Anyway, I added this script together with a version for demos > > (larger > > >> font size) here: > > >> > > >> MCHttpRepository > > >> location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/setup' > > >> user: '' > > >> password: '' > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> Doru > > >> > > >> > > >> On 22 May 2009, at 13:20, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > >> > > >>> gaah, these fat menus and title fonts look awful to me! ;) > > >>> Adrian > > >>> > > >>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:48 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> :) > > >>>> looks cool to me. thanks doru. > > >>>> > > >>>> <Picture 7.pdf><Picture 6.pdf> > > >>>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Thanks a lot, that worked fine. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed > > Bold > > >>>>> for > > >>>>> menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use > > >>>>> Helvetica > > >>>>> Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code > > >>>>> where I > > >>>>> use Monaco: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> menuFont := LogicalFont > > >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > > >>>>> pointSize: 9 > > >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > > >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > > >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > > >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont > > >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > > >>>>> pointSize: 14 > > >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > > >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > > >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > > >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8. > > >>>>> defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > > pointSize: > > >>>>> 9. > > >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>> Doru > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> From: [email protected] > > >>>>>>> To: [email protected] > > >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200 > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts > > >>>>>>> configuration > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to > > specify > > >>>>>> in a > > >>>>>>> script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can > > >>>>>>> anyone > > >>>>>> help? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont > > >>>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > > >>>>>> pointSize: 9 > > >>>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > > >>>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > > >>>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > > >>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> Andy > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>>> Doru > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 > > Pharo > > >>>>>> core > > >>>>>>>> and run the script I posted. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? > > >>>>>>>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a > > screenshot? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Adrian > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result. > > >>>>>>>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the > > >>>>>> 10309dev > > >>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>> the VM has the FT2plugin > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Stef > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with > > >>>>>>>>>> Lucida > > >>>>>>>>>> Grande and Monaco: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' > pointSize: > > >>>>>>>>>> 10. > > >>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: > 9. > > >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. > > >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. > > >>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' > > >>>>>> pointSize: 10. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to > > >>>>>> decrease > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). > > With > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Adrian > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design > > in > > >>>>>> Pharo > > >>>>>>>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN > > >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point > > previously > > >>>>>>>>>>> expressed there: > > >>>>>>>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code > > >>>>>>>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph > > >>>>>>>>>>> damage > > >>>>>>>>>>> code > > >>>>>>>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people > > will > > >>>>>>>>>>> RUN > > >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - > > >>>>>>>>>>>> default > > >>>>>>>>>>>> means > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ok > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for license and > > >>>>>>>>>>>> work on platforms.... > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of > > fonts > > >>>>>> even > > >>>>>>>>>>>> if > > >>>>>>>>>>>> they are proprietary. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can > impress > > >>>>>> girls :) > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' > pointSize: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 10. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' > > >>>>>> pointSize: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 9. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' > > >>>>>> pointSize: 11. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Stef > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>> pharo- > > >>>>>>>>>>>> project > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > pharo- > > >>>>>> project > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow." > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > > >>>>>>> project > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. 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