What you do not like OBPackageAdaptor... Great Squeakish ui. Stef
On May 22, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On May 22, 2009, at 14:19 , Tudor Girba wrote: > >> I certainly will not try to enforce it on anybody :). >> >> The reason why I used condensed bold for the title and menu is that >> because we have so many of them both windows and menus, it is >> difficult to identify them. So, I want to quickly spot the title when >> hovering over the tabs at the bottom which is not accomplishable. > > Then we should probably fix that the label of the tab shows what you > need to know (I assume the class name). Currently, the class name is > prefixed with "System Browser: ", which uses up all the space as soon > as one has several open windows. I would just remove "System Browser: > " in the window title and tab label and only print the class name. > Would that help? > > Adrian > >> As >> for the menus, I just find them easier to grasp in this way. >> >> Anyway, I added this script together with a version for demos (larger >> font size) here: >> >> MCHttpRepository >> location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/setup' >> user: '' >> password: '' >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 22 May 2009, at 13:20, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> gaah, these fat menus and title fonts look awful to me! ;) >>> Adrian >>> >>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:48 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> :) >>>> looks cool to me. thanks doru. >>>> >>>> <Picture 7.pdf><Picture 6.pdf> >>>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot, that worked fine. >>>>> >>>>> So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold >>>>> for >>>>> menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use >>>>> Helvetica >>>>> Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code >>>>> where I >>>>> use Monaco: >>>>> >>>>> menuFont := LogicalFont >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' >>>>> pointSize: 9 >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' >>>>> pointSize: 14 >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8. >>>>> defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: >>>>> 9. >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont. >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont. >>>>> Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont. >>>>> Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont. >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont. >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>> Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont. >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts >>>>>>> configuration >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify >>>>>> in a >>>>>>> script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can >>>>>>> anyone >>>>>> help? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont >>>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' >>>>>> pointSize: 9 >>>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) >>>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) >>>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). >>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Doru >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo >>>>>> core >>>>>>>> and run the script I posted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? >>>>>>>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adrian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result. >>>>>>>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the >>>>>> 10309dev >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> the VM has the FT2plugin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with >>>>>>>>>> Lucida >>>>>>>>>> Grande and Monaco: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: >>>>>>>>>> 10. >>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. >>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' >>>>>> pointSize: 10. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to >>>>>> decrease >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adrian >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in >>>>>> Pharo >>>>>>>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously >>>>>>>>>>> expressed there: >>>>>>>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code >>>>>>>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph >>>>>>>>>>> damage >>>>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will >>>>>>>>>>> RUN >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - >>>>>>>>>>>> default >>>>>>>>>>>> means >>>>>>>>>>>> ok >>>>>>>>>>>> for license and >>>>>>>>>>>> work on platforms.... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts >>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>> they are proprietary. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) >>>>>>>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress >>>>>> girls :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: >>>>>>>>>>>> 10. >>>>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' >>>>>> pointSize: >>>>>>>>>>>> 9. >>>>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' >>>>>> pointSize: 11. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>>>>>>>>> pharo- >>>>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>>> project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>>>> project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. 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