I like Arial, and I think it's a very common font available on most
platforms.....
| aStandardFont aBoldFont |
aStandardFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 9
stretchValue: 5 weightValue: 400 slantValue: 0.
aBoldFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 9 stretchValue:
5 weightValue: 700 slantValue: 0.
Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: aBoldFont.
Preferences setEToysTitleFontTo: aBoldFont.
Preferences setFlapsFontTo: aBoldFont.
Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setButtonFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setCodeFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setEToysFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setListFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setMenuFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setPaintBoxButtonFontTo: aStandardFont.
Preferences setSystemFontTo: aStandardFont.
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]
> wrote:
> What you do not like OBPackageAdaptor... Great Squeakish ui.
>
> Stef
>
> On May 22, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>
> >
> > On May 22, 2009, at 14:19 , Tudor Girba wrote:
> >
> >> I certainly will not try to enforce it on anybody :).
> >>
> >> The reason why I used condensed bold for the title and menu is that
> >> because we have so many of them both windows and menus, it is
> >> difficult to identify them. So, I want to quickly spot the title when
> >> hovering over the tabs at the bottom which is not accomplishable.
> >
> > Then we should probably fix that the label of the tab shows what you
> > need to know (I assume the class name). Currently, the class name is
> > prefixed with "System Browser: ", which uses up all the space as soon
> > as one has several open windows. I would just remove "System Browser:
> > " in the window title and tab label and only print the class name.
> > Would that help?
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >> As
> >> for the menus, I just find them easier to grasp in this way.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I added this script together with a version for demos (larger
> >> font size) here:
> >>
> >> MCHttpRepository
> >> location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/setup'
> >> user: ''
> >> password: ''
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Doru
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22 May 2009, at 13:20, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> >>
> >>> gaah, these fat menus and title fonts look awful to me! ;)
> >>> Adrian
> >>>
> >>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:48 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> :)
> >>>> looks cool to me. thanks doru.
> >>>>
> >>>> <Picture 7.pdf><Picture 6.pdf>
> >>>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks a lot, that worked fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use
> >>>>> Helvetica
> >>>>> Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code
> >>>>> where I
> >>>>> use Monaco:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> menuFont := LogicalFont
> >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue'
> >>>>> pointSize: 9
> >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed)
> >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold)
> >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal).
> >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont
> >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue'
> >>>>> pointSize: 14
> >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed)
> >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold)
> >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal).
> >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8.
> >>>>> defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize:
> >>>>> 9.
> >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Doru
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts
> >>>>>>> configuration
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify
> >>>>>> in a
> >>>>>>> script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can
> >>>>>>> anyone
> >>>>>> help?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont
> >>>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue'
> >>>>>> pointSize: 9
> >>>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed)
> >>>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold)
> >>>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal).
> >>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Andy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Doru
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo
> >>>>>> core
> >>>>>>>> and run the script I posted.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM?
> >>>>>>>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
> >>>>>>>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the
> >>>>>> 10309dev
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> the VM has the FT2plugin
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Stef
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with
> >>>>>>>>>> Lucida
> >>>>>>>>>> Grande and Monaco:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize:
> >>>>>>>>>> 10.
> >>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
> >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
> >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
> >>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande'
> >>>>>> pointSize: 10.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to
> >>>>>> decrease
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Adrian
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in
> >>>>>> Pharo
> >>>>>>>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN
> >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
> >>>>>>>>>>> expressed there:
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph
> >>>>>>>>>>> damage
> >>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will
> >>>>>>>>>>> RUN
> >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts -
> >>>>>>>>>>>> default
> >>>>>>>>>>>> means
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ok
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for license and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> work on platforms....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts
> >>>>>> even
> >>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they are proprietary.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress
> >>>>>> girls :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 10.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono'
> >>>>>> pointSize:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 9.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif'
> >>>>>> pointSize: 11.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Stef
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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