I found the flash menu :) and this is cool Stef
On May 22, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Steve Wirts wrote: > I like Arial, and I think it's a very common font available on most > platforms..... > > | aStandardFont aBoldFont | > > > aStandardFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 9 > stretchValue: 5 weightValue: 400 slantValue: 0. > aBoldFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 9 > stretchValue: 5 weightValue: 700 slantValue: 0. > > Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: aBoldFont. > Preferences setEToysTitleFontTo: aBoldFont. > Preferences setFlapsFontTo: aBoldFont. > Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setButtonFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setCodeFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setEToysFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setListFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setMenuFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setPaintBoxButtonFontTo: aStandardFont. > Preferences setSystemFontTo: aStandardFont. > > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected] > > wrote: > What you do not like OBPackageAdaptor... Great Squeakish ui. > > Stef > > On May 22, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > > > On May 22, 2009, at 14:19 , Tudor Girba wrote: > > > >> I certainly will not try to enforce it on anybody :). > >> > >> The reason why I used condensed bold for the title and menu is that > >> because we have so many of them both windows and menus, it is > >> difficult to identify them. So, I want to quickly spot the title > when > >> hovering over the tabs at the bottom which is not accomplishable. > > > > Then we should probably fix that the label of the tab shows what you > > need to know (I assume the class name). Currently, the class name is > > prefixed with "System Browser: ", which uses up all the space as > soon > > as one has several open windows. I would just remove "System > Browser: > > " in the window title and tab label and only print the class name. > > Would that help? > > > > Adrian > > > >> As > >> for the menus, I just find them easier to grasp in this way. > >> > >> Anyway, I added this script together with a version for demos > (larger > >> font size) here: > >> > >> MCHttpRepository > >> location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/setup' > >> user: '' > >> password: '' > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Doru > >> > >> > >> On 22 May 2009, at 13:20, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> > >>> gaah, these fat menus and title fonts look awful to me! ;) > >>> Adrian > >>> > >>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:48 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>> > >>>> :) > >>>> looks cool to me. thanks doru. > >>>> > >>>> <Picture 7.pdf><Picture 6.pdf> > >>>> On May 22, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks a lot, that worked fine. > >>>>> > >>>>> So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed > Bold > >>>>> for > >>>>> menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use > >>>>> Helvetica > >>>>> Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code > >>>>> where I > >>>>> use Monaco: > >>>>> > >>>>> menuFont := LogicalFont > >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > >>>>> pointSize: 9 > >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont > >>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > >>>>> pointSize: 14 > >>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > >>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > >>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8. > >>>>> defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > pointSize: > >>>>> 9. > >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont. > >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont. > >>>>> Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont. > >>>>> Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont. > >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont. > >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > >>>>> Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont. > >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Doru > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: [email protected] > >>>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200 > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts > >>>>>>> configuration > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to > specify > >>>>>> in a > >>>>>>> script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can > >>>>>>> anyone > >>>>>> help? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont > >>>>>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > >>>>>> pointSize: 9 > >>>>>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > >>>>>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > >>>>>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > >>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> Andy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>> Doru > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 > Pharo > >>>>>> core > >>>>>>>> and run the script I posted. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? > >>>>>>>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a > screenshot? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Adrian > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result. > >>>>>>>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the > >>>>>> 10309dev > >>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>> the VM has the FT2plugin > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Stef > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with > >>>>>>>>>> Lucida > >>>>>>>>>> Grande and Monaco: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: > >>>>>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. > >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. > >>>>>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. > >>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' > >>>>>> pointSize: 10. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to > >>>>>> decrease > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). > With > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Adrian > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design > in > >>>>>> Pharo > >>>>>>>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN > >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point > previously > >>>>>>>>>>> expressed there: > >>>>>>>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code > >>>>>>>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph > >>>>>>>>>>> damage > >>>>>>>>>>> code > >>>>>>>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people > will > >>>>>>>>>>> RUN > >>>>>>>>>>> AWAY. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - > >>>>>>>>>>>> default > >>>>>>>>>>>> means > >>>>>>>>>>>> ok > >>>>>>>>>>>> for license and > >>>>>>>>>>>> work on platforms.... > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of > fonts > >>>>>> even > >>>>>>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>>>>> they are proprietary. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) > >>>>>>>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress > >>>>>> girls :) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: > >>>>>>>>>>>> 10. > >>>>>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' > >>>>>> pointSize: > >>>>>>>>>>>> 9. > >>>>>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' > >>>>>> pointSize: 11. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Stef > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> pharo- > >>>>>>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > >>>>>> project > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Every thing has its own flow." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > >>>>>>> project > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. 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