On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Robert Peters wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > 1. Whichever fork is most professional will win. I believe this was > one of > the goals of the Pharo project, so I'd have to say Pharo will > eventually > lead.
this is not our goal. Our goal is to deliver and create a biotope for other people to create their world and wealth. > 2. Smalltalk in all its forms will fail unless it can grab developer > interest from outside the current community. Pharo may be better than > Squeak, but if everyone moves from Squeak to Pharo, your audience is > still > too small to be significant. why your and not our? > I'm a web-application developer (Django, GAE) and self-taught Python > coder. > I learned Python because it was easy, and there is a wealth of > information > available on the internet. If I have any problem in Python, I > simply type > 'python issue' into Google and within a few clicks I'm usually > looking at > the answer. When I tried to learn Smalltalk, it was intensely > frustrating. > There were no on-line resources, no tutorials, no explanations. This is true but we are working on fixing that; squeak by example and other.... they are free books > I think the real question is, "Is Smalltalk a better language than > Python?" > By better, I mean, "Can I get done more coding tasks faster, in a more > sustainable way?" > > Right now, the answer to this question is a resounding 'No'. But that > answer might change with a slick Smalltalk package, and an abundance > of > developer resources. As it is, Smalltalk is a language for > eccentrics. But > it doesn't need to be that way. > > All of this to say that I really like the beautiful simplicity of > Smalltalk's main paradigm - Message Passing. > > It's simple. It's elegant. But learning it is a stone bitch, and > once > you've learned it, it has only limited value (compared, for example, > to the > wealth of things one can do in Python). I wish this would change. I do not think so. Message passing is simple and you can do a lot with it :) But give a try. I mean a real one :) Stef > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Squeak-Forks-Popularity---Trends-Estimate-tp3211130p3232572.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
