Count me in! I favor a separate list because this one is already quite busy.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Do you want to discuss about papers? +1 Stef On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: > Mariano, > > That's a very good idea and useful also for us practitioners to get > and implement some new ideas from theoretic works out there. So I am > for this new mailing list! > > Janko > > On 30. 01. 2010 14:35, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> Hi folks. Before sending this email to all smalltalk mailing lists, I >> first wanted to ask you what do you think. >> >> I am new in the world of the research and about reading and >> discussing about papers. If what I propose already exist, forget this >> mail and please tell me where is it. >> >> I was thinking to have a place, an environment (mailing list), where >> we can freely discuss about Smalltalk or OO in general papers. At the >> beginning I though to put this inside the Pharo mailing list but then >> I though it is better to do a new mailing list where all smalltalkers >> of all flavors can join and discuss. >> >> The main purpose about that list is: >> >> - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in >> general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a >> paper that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all >> professional and I think we can discuss with respect. >> - LEARN. >> >> Other uses: >> - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read >> that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it. >> - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and >> learning >> - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper. >> - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We >> can meet people, join forces, etc. >> - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops, >> conferences, and so on >> - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to >> review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help. >> - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some >> papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ? >> - Ask for feedback for a paper before submitting it in a >> conference/workshop >> - Educate people and being educated >> - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code >> for example >> - Discuss about research in general >> - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX >> topic, I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work. >> - others >> >> I will give you an example: this week I have been reading a paper >> about LOOM - Large Object Oriented Memory. This paper is from ECOOP >> 1986 (the only thing an Argentinian can think about that year is >> Maradona's goals to England in Mexico ;) ). I was one year old at >> that time. LOOM was based in Smalltalk 80. I had no idea about that. >> I had to read some chapters of the blue book first in order to then >> understand LOOM. I have ever seen LOOM code, I don't know what >> happened with it, etc. So, maybe there is someone who even saw LOOM >> in live, he saw the code, he knows what happened, if it worked really >> or not, the advantages and drawbacks, the repercussion it had, etc. >> That information, those opinions, you cannot get it from other place. >> >> So, what do you think? Do you like the idea or has no sense ? If you >> like and has sense, I will create the mailing list and send it to all >> Smalltalk mailing lists I know. >> >> In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN. >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano > > > -- > Janko Mivšek > AIDA/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
