Another difference maybe  the tools that are loaded in Squeak and Pharo. I
am not aware what is loaded in Squeak images, but in PharoDev you have OB,
OCompletion, RefactoringBrowser, TrueType fonts, Shout, etc.

Some of these tools make Pharo a bit more slower than the PharoCore. If they
Squeak image you are using doesn't have all those tools, then you should
compare to a PharoCore image, not Dev. Pharo core images doesn't have all
the dev tools.

Cheers

Mariano

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
> On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>
> > Marcus,
> > I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at home.
> >
> > It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used
> Squeak to test this particular situation.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Facu
> >
> > (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the
> instalation
>
> which log?
>
> Stef
>
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
> > >
> > >> Lukas,
> > >> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and Pharo.
> > >>
> > >> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go very
> very fast
> > >> to open de smalltalk debugger.
> > >> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did you note
> that too or it's only my sensations?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
> > >
> > >
> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE.1.zip
> > >
> > > In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0 speed-wise,
> but Pharo 1.1
> > >
> >
> > My theory for your bug is that it's this:
> >
> >        http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
> >
> > We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was supposed
> to be released
> > "very soon".
> >
> >        Marcus
> >
> >
> >
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