Mariano,
I had to uninstall nod-32 and the problem disappeared. I don't know why the
problem doesn't happen with Squeak but it's ok on Pharo now.

Thanks and sorry by my confusion,
Facu

2010/4/12 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>

> As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something
> like that ?  in such case you should exclude the directory where you have
> your Pharo image.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>>
>> > It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I
>> will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its
>> solution.
>> >
>> > nobody has the same problem?
>>
>> No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that
>> made squeak faster.
>>
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Facu
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>> >
>> > > Stef,
>> > > I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took
>> over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was
>> the reason of my first mail.
>> > > I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration
>> problem at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1
>> second to open the debugger.
>> > > Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with
>> "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed
>> Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I
>> had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
>> >
>> > ok so with 1.1 this is working?
>> > There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after
>> 1.0 and much much faster :)
>> >
>> > > Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
>> >
>> > Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
>> > >
>> > > Facu
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an
>> antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior?
>> > > We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have
>> this problem.
>> > > So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image
>> somewhere?
>> > >
>> > > Stef
>> > >
>> > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Stef,
>> > > > It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8
>> installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system
>> was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is
>> happening.
>> > > >
>> > > > I will check it again.
>> > > >
>> > > > Facu
>> > > >
>> > > > ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual
>> Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Marcus,
>> > > > > I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at
>> home.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I
>> used Squeak to test this particular situation.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Facu
>> > > > >
>> > > > > (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the
>> instalation
>> > > >
>> > > > which log?
>> > > >
>> > > > Stef
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Lukas,
>> > > > > >> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
>> Pharo.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go
>> very very fast
>> > > > > >> to open de smalltalk debugger.
>> > > > > >> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did
>> you note that too or it's only my sensations?
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE.1.zip
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
>> speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My theory for your bug is that it's this:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >        http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was
>> supposed to be released
>> > > > > "very soon".
>> > > > >
>> > > > >        Marcus
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Marcus Denker  -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
>> > > > > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>> > > > >
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