As Stef said...do you have some anti-virus program like nod-32 or something
like that ?  in such case you should exclude the directory where you have
your Pharo image.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
>
> > It continues taking longer 15 seconds on 1.1 too, there isn't change. I
> will try to compare with Squeak looking for the possible problem and its
> solution.
> >
> > nobody has the same problem?
>
> No and this is strange because 1.1 got a lot of the stream changes that
> made squeak faster.
>
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Facu
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
> >
> > > Stef,
> > > I'm using Pharo 1.0 RC2 with Seaside 2.8.4 and all is fine but it took
> over 15 seconds open a smalltalk debugger from a Seaside wallback. It was
> the reason of my first mail.
> > > I tried with Squeak 4.1 RC4, to discard a network configuration problem
> at operative system level, and i don't have the problem. It takes 1 second
> to open the debugger.
> > > Then, Marcus ask to me if i had the same problem with
> "PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE", at that time I download it, installed
> Seaside and try again. To Install Seaside took to me over 20 minutes but I
> had been instaled it on Pharo 1.0 and was been fine.
> >
> > ok so with 1.1 this is working?
> > There were a **lot** of changes in 1.1. We will release shortly after 1.0
> and much much faster :)
> >
> > > Is it more clear now ?. Please, sorry for my poor English.
> >
> > Don;t worry. write simple sentences and we will understand you.
> > >
> > > Facu
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > This is really strange. Can you describe your setup? Do you have an
> antivirus? And with Squeak you do not have that behavior?
> > > We are loading larger code than seaside in Pharo and we do not have
> this problem.
> > > So I would really like to understand. Could you post your image
> somewhere?
> > >
> > > Stef
> > >
> > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
> > >
> > > > Stef,
> > > > It took to me over 20 minutes to complete the Seaside 2.8
> installation and when I interrupted it the debugger opened when the system
> was writting the pharoXXX.changes always but I couldn't check what is
> happening.
> > > >
> > > > I will check it again.
> > > >
> > > > Facu
> > > >
> > > > ps: I refered to pharoXXX.changes as "log" because of Visual
> Smalltalk where the "changes" are called changes.log, excuse me.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Marcus,
> > > > > I can't install Seaside on Pharo 1.1(*) but then i'll try again at
> home.
> > > > >
> > > > > It isn't my point to compare Pharo to Squeak performance but I used
> Squeak to test this particular situation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > Facu
> > > > >
> > > > > (*) it's very slow to write the log taking minutes to complete the
> instalation
> > > >
> > > > which log?
> > > >
> > > > Stef
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Marcus Denker <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:41 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Facundo Vozzi wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Lukas,
> > > > > >> It happens on my machine with Windows/(Firefox-Chrome-IE 8) and
> Pharo.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> But I test it on the same machine with Squeak 4.1 RC4 and it go
> very very fast
> > > > > >> to open de smalltalk debugger.
> > > > > >> Furthermore, Squeak 4.1 RC4 seem to be faster than Pharo, did
> you note that too or it's only my sensations?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you check with Pharo 1.1?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE.1.zip
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In general, Squeak 4.1 should not be compared to Pharo 1.0
> speed-wise, but Pharo 1.1
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My theory for your bug is that it's this:
> > > > >
> > > > >        http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=860
> > > > >
> > > > > We added it to 1.1 on Nov. 01, 2009. Not to 1.0, because 1.0 was
> supposed to be released
> > > > > "very soon".
> > > > >
> > > > >        Marcus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Marcus Denker  -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
> > > > > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
> > > > >
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