--- Jef Spaleta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe some exaggerated logic...but the point is
> there buried in the
> sarcasm. Does it make ANY business sense at all for
> Red Hat to look at
> gaming like its something even worth marketing,
> worth talking about at
> all, let alone burning valuable development time
> focusing on? No...and
> thankfully Red Hat's management team isn't a bunch
> of FPS obsessed
> gamers, with an itchy trigger finger..but are
> instead seem to be pretty
> savvy business people who really know how to think
> ahead and guage
> market potential and have a keen sense of where the
> technology and the
> demand stands on all fronts. Mandrake, its gaming
> release one relavent
> example, isn't blessed with such management.  
> 
> Or maybe I've got it all wrong. Maybe its not that
> Red Hat's management
> is really good and know how to avoid money losing
> business ideas. Maybe
> the management team just have an extreme dislike for
> their userbase, and
> are actively ignoring the vocal masses of paying
> linux users screaming
> for better gaming support at the OS level...and it's
> just a complete
> fluke Red Hat is doing as well as they are, despite
> of their boneheaded
> decisions not to court the opressed masses of linux
> gamers, who are
> crying out for recognition. Maybe Mandrake was on to
> something by
> catering to gamers, but have been crushed on the
> economic bootheel of
> Red Hat, and their obsessive desire to kill all
> linux innovation. 

Well, I'm new to the world of Linux (been using it for
a little over a year) and I love the fact that games
_can_ run well in Linux (see Q3A and RTCW).  But, I
fully recognize that the immediate play is a business
one, not a gaming one.  What I would like to see RH do
is something in between your two paragraphs above. 
Certainly, it is much more profitable for RH to focus
on the business and server side.  I would never want
them to lose that focus because, using your Mandrake
reference, other Linux companies have not done that
and have suffered for it.  RH has the perfect Linux
business model, I think.

It's just that I would love for them to, I don't know,
give a little *nod* to the desktop/gaming community. 
I'm not expecting this any time soon, of course, but
it would be great to see RH put out a "Home Edition"
or something like that with some minimal add-ons, such
as mp3 players and nvidia drivers, for example.  The
ability and potential is there and Linux does games so
well, I think, that it would be great to see RH take a
step, albeit small, in that direction.  I know that RH
has said many times that they can't support those add
ons and people would expect them to, but I really wish
there was a way to address that, either by partnering
with those add-on companies like nvidia, realnetworks
(for realplayer support), and an mp3 company for mp3
support or hiring a couple dedicated support staff for
this Home Edition or something.  There just has to be
a way to do it.

Part of the problem I think is that it seems to be a
chicken and the egg issue.  Software vendors like RH
and game companies say "well, we'll create home
versions of our OS and we'll make more games when
there is better hardware support" and the hardware
vendors say "well, we'll create linux drivers and
support our products in linux when there is a
sufficient user base that will demand it and pay for
it."  Someone's got to go first.

Anyway, I'm not arguing here.  You've made some
excellent points and I agree with you more than I
disagree.  I thought Mike Harris' post about game
developers was right on they money.  They are poking
around Linux some but they're probably not getting a
sufficient return on their investment to make any real
difference right now.  Why else would Epic release
UT2003 with a Linux installer on the 3d CD but then
not list Linux as one of the supported OS's on the
box?  That's really sad.  Still, I try to show my
support by buying some distros here and there and
buying Linux games and Linux software when I can.

I'm not a coder, or a developer, or an IT guy.  I'm a
professional in my mid-30's with a wife who probably
thinks I spend way too much time playing around with
this Linux stuff (although who did get me a
subscription to Linux Journal for Valentine's Day,
bless her heart!) and an 18 month old son who kills me
when I come home and he runs to the door saying
"da-deee!"

I just love Linux and I think it has so much potential
-- beyond that as a corporate desktop and a server. 
And I really respect RH a lot and think RH will play a
major role in the growth of Linux in the home.

Cheers,
Charles


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