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> I would never advise anyone to collect anything as an investment. Any
hobby
> should be done for the enjoyment, not for financial gain.

> The key  with ANY collectable -- phonographs, coins, watches, whatever --
is
> to buy the  best you can afford.

> Where eBay has led to declines in values is on the most common items.
There's far more
> supply than demand and prices have sunk as a result.

> But at the higher end it's another story. Want a Class M? A Columbia
> Graphophone Grand? An Edison Excelsior? A Zonophone B? Good luck!"

I couldn't agree more, and how eloquently stated.  I don't want to inflame
any member of the community I revere and respect by saying the following,
but I honestly doubt that I will:  all eBay has done is bring knowledge and
truth into the equation.  It has allowed the market to regulate itself.
Dealers who used to charge $1000 for a $400 machine simply can't sell them
anymore, and I think that's a very, very good thing!  Common machines have
been 'found out' as common machines, and almost all collectors are much more
market-educated than ever before because of eBay (except the high-end guys,
like most of the folks on this list -- they're the ones educating the rest
of us).

I think Kurt Nauck's is simply the best vintage record auction that has ever
been, run by honestly one of the kindest, smartest, and without question,
most honest people I've ever been blessed to meet and get to know.  Just a
couple of years before eBay, I bid $1000 on a 10", 78rpm, RCA Victor picture
disc of Enrico Caruso and ended up winning it for just over $600.  That
means that of all his customers, someone else out there wanted it $600'
worth at the time.  I've watched that same record go on eBay for $150 - $175
at least 10 times in the last 5 years.  Do I feel duped by Kurt Nauck?
Absolutely not!  Am I sore that my "investment" (which I never intended to
resell) didn't maintain the value of the amount I paid?  Not particularly,
mainly because of two reasons:  one, thanks to eBay, I was finally able to
buy one of the very first Path? discs for $300 instead of the $750 I'd seen
them for in pre-eBay auctions; and two, because of the dissemination of
truth regarding common-vs-rare records through eBay, non-eBay auctioneers
and dealers have had no choice but to bring their prices down (in Kurt's
case, where the records' minimum bids are already way beneath reasonable,
bidders simply bid less now than they used to), because people aren't ever
going to pay $100 for a disc they can find on eBay for $20.  The only thing
that seems unfair is that Kurt's auctions bring in slightly less money than
they used to for the same amount of work, but he's such a rare case as an
honest man that I think the trade off of gouge-'em dealers losing their
shirts makes it less painful.  I mean, at least we're finally dealing with
the truth!

And if the truth is that a particular phonograph is common enough to only be
worth $400, eBay is the chief reason that a) I'd know that to begin with,
and b) would be able to readily find one at that price -- its true and
honest price.

I will say this, however -- if we get one more single postage stamp
increase, I'm gonna let the USPS have it.  For however many people stopped
mailing letters because of e-mail, there's been at least half of them
spending ten to fifty times as much on postage to ship eBay winnings back
and forth.  I had never had occasion to ship so much as one single package
in my life up to age thirty, but since eBay happened, my yearly spending on
shipping has hovered around a grand a year.  And I never really sent letters
much.

Man, do I enjoy being on this list!  My best to you all.

-Robert


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