I recently contacted a buyer who purchased a 2m cylinder "Come Take a Trip in My Airship." I happened to have the original box & lis for that record with an incorrect cylinder inside. I sent him some pix of said box with a price and he was more that happy to get an original lidded box. (He paid $104.00 for the damn record !)
Bill -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mgraziano1" <[email protected]> > ...such as recourse IS on eBay (not if). > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mgraziano1 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:20 PM > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... > > I've offered similar items to second and third bidders of another seller, > but I always specify that I would list it at the agreed price and > buy-it-now, so that the buyer had recourse if something was amiss (such as > recourse if on eBay). > > I've been successful in the past, however usually with Lionel train items > under $500. > > -Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince C. [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:51 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... > > He actually deals in phonographs on the side. He is a very nice guy. As > for if there were shilling in the auction who knows. > > I once watched an oak upright 11 sell for $1500 on Ebay. I listed one on > Ebay that was nicer the following week and it only hit $325. Sometimes is > just takes two nuts to run the price up. > > We constantly see price differences on Ebay. A beautiful Vic V with Spear > tip sold not too long ago for $4,000, while one just ended yesterday in the > same condition for only $3200. > > I would find it hard to believe that if someone shilled it they would > continue until they won something. I would guess they would shill it up to > the reserve and let the next bidder meet reserve. > > As for emailing the under bidders, especially when you are not the person > selling the original item. I can see why people would not answer the > emails. Too many scams going on these days. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bob" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... > > > > He does buy and sell a lot of phonographs. > > RMV > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mgraziano1" > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... > > > > > >> If this was a shill auction, I'd be surprised. None of the bidders had > >> any > >> previous relation with the seller, unless it was more than 30 days ago, > >> and > >> the seller has a wide variety of interests including Van Halen, Fiats, > >> Vespa, and tons more. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Ron L'Herault [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 11:28 AM > >> To: 'Antique Phonograph List' > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... > >> > >> Well, the seller and highest bidder are both in PA, I didn't bother to > >> see > >> how close though. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > [email protected] > > > > Phono-L Archive > > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ From [email protected] Sat Jan 28 12:45:34 2006 From: [email protected] (Vince C.) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:11:12 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... References: <012820062019.4485.43dbd1d300000a5b0000118522007613949f9a030a05020e9...@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004001c6244b$c955ac20$6601a...@dg86t661> I agree with both of you and have contacted under bidders as well when I have the same item. But it seems that now they tend not to respond. Of course as of late, I get way more scam offers then I did a few years back regarding ebay. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... >I recently contacted a buyer who purchased a 2m cylinder "Come Take a Trip >in My Airship." I happened to have the original box & lis for that record >with an incorrect cylinder inside. I sent him some pix of said box with a >price and he was more that happy to get an original lidded box. (He paid >$104.00 for the damn record !) > > Bill > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Mgraziano1" <[email protected]> > >> ...such as recourse IS on eBay (not if). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mgraziano1 [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:20 PM >> To: 'Antique Phonograph List' >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... >> >> I've offered similar items to second and third bidders of another seller, >> but I always specify that I would list it at the agreed price and >> buy-it-now, so that the buyer had recourse if something was amiss (such >> as >> recourse if on eBay). >> >> I've been successful in the past, however usually with Lionel train items >> under $500. >> >> -Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vince C. [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:51 PM >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... >> >> He actually deals in phonographs on the side. He is a very nice guy. As >> for if there were shilling in the auction who knows. >> >> I once watched an oak upright 11 sell for $1500 on Ebay. I listed one on >> Ebay that was nicer the following week and it only hit $325. Sometimes is >> just takes two nuts to run the price up. >> >> We constantly see price differences on Ebay. A beautiful Vic V with Spear >> tip sold not too long ago for $4,000, while one just ended yesterday in >> the >> same condition for only $3200. >> >> I would find it hard to believe that if someone shilled it they would >> continue until they won something. I would guess they would shill it up >> to >> the reserve and let the next bidder meet reserve. >> >> As for emailing the under bidders, especially when you are not the person >> selling the original item. I can see why people would not answer the >> emails. Too many scams going on these days. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bob" >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... >> >> >> > He does buy and sell a lot of phonographs. >> > RMV >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Mgraziano1" >> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" >> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:41 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... >> > >> > >> >> If this was a shill auction, I'd be surprised. None of the bidders had >> >> any >> >> previous relation with the seller, unless it was more than 30 days >> >> ago, >> >> and >> >> the seller has a wide variety of interests including Van Halen, Fiats, >> >> Vespa, and tons more. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Ron L'Herault [mailto:[email protected]] >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 11:28 AM >> >> To: 'Antique Phonograph List' >> >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] I smell a rat..................... >> >> >> >> Well, the seller and highest bidder are both in PA, I didn't bother to >> >> see >> >> how close though. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Phono-L mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > >> > Phono-L Archive >> > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> Phono-L Archive >> http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> Phono-L Archive >> http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> Phono-L Archive >> http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/ > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > [email protected] > > Phono-L Archive > http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/
