I find this historical side trip very interesting as Shawn has corectly pointed out there was minimal interest in maintaining historical records for future generations to study. And thee was no real legal requirement to do so. Even if Colorado required the recording of births and deaths starting in 1900, what was the penalty for non compliance? Take back your birthday? People were ignoring the Colorado law up into the 50s I would suspect, maybe even later.
With this kind of research you maintain all of the original documents and append present day research onto the story. You do not make new records. To do so is distorting history. Loran T. Hughes wrote: > Here's the juicy tidbits from the 1880 U.S. census: > > ------ > Philadelphia, PA > Jas. Jones, age 31, Occupation: Bartender > Annie Jones, age 20, Wife, Occupation: Keeps House > Ada Jones, age 7, Daughter, Occupation: At Home > Jas. H.O. Jones, age 6 mos., Son, Occupation: At Home > Marg't Maloney, age 45, Mother, Occupation: At Home > ----- > > According to songwritershalloffame.org, the family moved to Philly in > 1879 and Ada's mother died soon thereafter. Annie Maloney was James' > second wife (wow, he worked fast!). Margaret Maloney would be Annie's > mother. > > Loran > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From [email protected] Sun Apr 13 14:50:47 2008 From: [email protected] (Rich) Date: Sun Apr 13 14:51:00 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information In-Reply-To: <000301c89dab$fcbfdd20$6401a...@your4dacd0ea75> References: <[email protected]> <000301c89dab$fcbfdd20$6401a...@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Nephritis could also have been an infection. Blood poisoning will kill you very quickly. funk wrote: > I read a Jim Walsh column where he spoke about Ada always having a personal > assistant on these tours. He was in addendance at a concert where he saw the > two arrive at the theater. Looking at the contributing cause of death it > mentions chronic nephritis and the duration as "unknown". Wouldn't > a companion at least been able to give some time interval? > > Also, if one was to die of kidney failure, one would be sick for a few days > to weeks. Could Ada really have been performing one day and dead the next? > Somewhere I read she died of an epileptic seizure since she was known to > have those through out her life. I have always believed that was her cause > of death until seeing this document. > > Suellen > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information > > > In a message dated 4/13/2008 3:17:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: (comment below) > > Philadelphia, PA > Jas. Jones, age 31, Occupation: Bartender > Annie Jones, age 20, Wife, Occupation: Keeps House > Ada Jones, age 7, Daughter, Occupation: At Home > Jas. H.O. Jones, age 6 mos., Son, Occupation: At Home > Marg't Maloney, age 45, Mother, Occupation: At Home > ----- > > According to songwritershalloffame.org, the family moved to Philly in > 1879 and Ada's mother died soon thereafter. Annie Maloney was James' > second wife (wow, he worked fast!). Margaret Maloney would be Annie's > mother. > > > > -------------- > so her mother and step-mother were both named Annie? > > Ada Jones was the First Lady of the Phonograph! > > Allen > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From [email protected] Sun Apr 13 15:07:08 2008 From: [email protected] (funk) Date: Sun Apr 13 15:08:23 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]><000301c89dab$fcbfdd20$6401a...@your4dacd0ea75> <[email protected]> Message-ID: <000001c89db2$b862c780$6401a...@your4dacd0ea75> While a kidney infection (such as pylonephritis) can lead to septic shock and can kill in less than 24 hours, I found it interesting that the death certificate said acute uremia and chronic nephritis. Acute uremia is indicative of the kidneys not functioning; long enough for the waste products and electrolytes to reach a level high enough to be incompatible with life. Considering the lack of ability to scan measure or otherwise diagnose disease in the human body easily in those years, I doubt we can put much stock in some death certificates issued. Interestingly enough, my Mother-in-Law died this year and the physician put the cause of death down as "cardiac arrest" -- right above the line that said "please do not put respiratory or cardiac arrest down as cause of death". -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:51 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information Nephritis could also have been an infection. Blood poisoning will kill you very quickly. funk wrote: > I read a Jim Walsh column where he spoke about Ada always having a personal > assistant on these tours. He was in addendance at a concert where he saw the > two arrive at the theater. Looking at the contributing cause of death it > mentions chronic nephritis and the duration as "unknown". Wouldn't > a companion at least been able to give some time interval? > > Also, if one was to die of kidney failure, one would be sick for a few days > to weeks. Could Ada really have been performing one day and dead the next? > Somewhere I read she died of an epileptic seizure since she was known to > have those through out her life. I have always believed that was her cause > of death until seeing this document. > > Suellen > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 3:46 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information > > > In a message dated 4/13/2008 3:17:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: (comment below) > > Philadelphia, PA > Jas. Jones, age 31, Occupation: Bartender > Annie Jones, age 20, Wife, Occupation: Keeps House > Ada Jones, age 7, Daughter, Occupation: At Home > Jas. H.O. Jones, age 6 mos., Son, Occupation: At Home > Marg't Maloney, age 45, Mother, Occupation: At Home > ----- > > According to songwritershalloffame.org, the family moved to Philly in > 1879 and Ada's mother died soon thereafter. Annie Maloney was James' > second wife (wow, he worked fast!). Margaret Maloney would be Annie's > mother. > > > > -------------- > so her mother and step-mother were both named Annie? > > Ada Jones was the First Lady of the Phonograph! > > Allen > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. 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