Before the government programs, your birthday and date of death did not make a lot of difference. As neither one served much real tangible purpose to you, or anyone else.
Douglas Houston wrote: > All of this makes me wonder if vital statistics were reliably accurate in > the days that Ada Jones was born; in England, or even in this country. For > instance, my father was born in a little burg in Tennessee, north of > Chattanooga. When he was 72, he wanted to apply for Social Security. He > contacted the Hamilton County records, and they showed him as being 70, > rather than 72. He had to contact relatives, still living in the little > town of Soddy, where he was born, and have them swear out an affadavit, > attesting to his accurate age. Later, in discussions with the kinfolk > there, it was speculated that the error was attributed to the census taker, > stopping at one of the houses on the street and simply taking down dates > that a neighbor blurted out from memory, which was not very accurate. That > saved the census taker time and trudging the dirt streets of the town. In > that day, who'da thunk that it would ever matter? > > >> [Original Message] >> From: BruceY <bruce78...@comcast.net> >> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> Date: 4/12/2008 8:47:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information >> >> Still trying to pin down Ada's actually birth date via some sort of > bonifide >> document. All the biographies give her birth year as 1873 which would > make >> her 47 at some point in 1920 not age 44, and her death certificate gives > an >> incorrect age of 40, couldn't someone at the time poor Ada passed at > least >> make an effort to call or wire someone to obtain the correct information > for >> her Death Certificate?!! and who gave the information to the Census > Taker?? >> Seems he not only had her age wrong but the spelling of her last name > wrong >> as well? >> >> Bruce >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "wayne holznagel" <ethanu...@yahoo.com> >> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:36 PM >> Subject: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information >> >> >>> I believe I may have the right person . . . >>> The 1920 census shows Hugh, Ada, & Sheelah (it's hard to read the >>> spelling of this name). They lived at Huntington, Suffolk, New York. >>> According to this record: >>> Hugh's age was 39. He arrived in the US in 1886. He became a >>> naturalized citizen in 1917. He came from England. Occupation was >>> theatrical. >>> Ada's age was 44. She arrived in the US in 1880. She became a >>> naturalized citizen in 1917. She came from England. Occupation was >>> singer. >>> Sheelah's age was 13. Was was listed as "daughter". The census >>> information indicates she was born in England. >>> If anyone is linked into one of the major genealogical web sites you > can >>> obtain copies of the original information. That would include, in many >>> cases, copies of passenger lists, census information, probate records, >>> etc. I've been researching my extensive family history and, believe > me, >>> it's there if a person wants to look. I like ancestory.com but there > are >>> other sites that provide good information. >>> Just some information for the good of the cause. >>> >>> >>> <:)> >>> Wayne H >>> >>> >>> My website is at http://www.phonomantiques.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From emer...@wheatstate.com Sat Apr 12 21:42:16 2008 From: emer...@wheatstate.com (Jackie Burwell) Date: Sat Apr 12 21:42:23 2008 Subject: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information References: <410-220084013225...@earthlink.net> <48016b7f.9000...@octoxol.com> Message-ID: <001701c89d20$c0401a80$7b2cd...@dimension> I googled Ada Jones and found an interesting site www.gracyk.com/ada.shtml Check it out. It's pretty interesting. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-m...@octoxol.com> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information > Before the government programs, your birthday and date of death did not > make a lot of difference. As neither one served much real tangible > purpose to you, or anyone else. > > Douglas Houston wrote: >> All of this makes me wonder if vital statistics were reliably accurate in >> the days that Ada Jones was born; in England, or even in this country. >> For >> instance, my father was born in a little burg in Tennessee, north of >> Chattanooga. When he was 72, he wanted to apply for Social Security. He >> contacted the Hamilton County records, and they showed him as being 70, >> rather than 72. He had to contact relatives, still living in the little >> town of Soddy, where he was born, and have them swear out an affadavit, >> attesting to his accurate age. Later, in discussions with the kinfolk >> there, it was speculated that the error was attributed to the census >> taker, >> stopping at one of the houses on the street and simply taking down dates >> that a neighbor blurted out from memory, which was not very accurate. >> That >> saved the census taker time and trudging the dirt streets of the town. In >> that day, who'da thunk that it would ever matter? >>> [Original Message] >>> From: BruceY <bruce78...@comcast.net> >>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >>> Date: 4/12/2008 8:47:58 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information >>> >>> Still trying to pin down Ada's actually birth date via some sort of >> bonifide >>> document. All the biographies give her birth year as 1873 which would >> make >>> her 47 at some point in 1920 not age 44, and her death certificate gives >> an >>> incorrect age of 40, couldn't someone at the time poor Ada passed at >> least >>> make an effort to call or wire someone to obtain the correct information >> for >>> her Death Certificate?!! and who gave the information to the Census >> Taker?? >>> Seems he not only had her age wrong but the spelling of her last name >> wrong >>> as well? >>> >>> Bruce >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "wayne holznagel" <ethanu...@yahoo.com> >>> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:36 PM >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Additional Ada Jones Information >>> >>> >>>> I believe I may have the right person . . . >>>> The 1920 census shows Hugh, Ada, & Sheelah (it's hard to read the >>>> spelling of this name). They lived at Huntington, Suffolk, New York. >>>> According to this record: >>>> Hugh's age was 39. He arrived in the US in 1886. He became a >>>> naturalized citizen in 1917. He came from England. Occupation was >>>> theatrical. >>>> Ada's age was 44. She arrived in the US in 1880. She became a >>>> naturalized citizen in 1917. She came from England. Occupation was >>>> singer. >>>> Sheelah's age was 13. Was was listed as "daughter". The census >>>> information indicates she was born in England. >>>> If anyone is linked into one of the major genealogical web sites you >> can >>>> obtain copies of the original information. That would include, in many >>>> cases, copies of passenger lists, census information, probate records, >>>> etc. I've been researching my extensive family history and, believe >> me, >>>> it's there if a person wants to look. I like ancestory.com but there >> are >>>> other sites that provide good information. >>>> Just some information for the good of the cause. >>>> >>>> >>>> <:)> >>>> Wayne H >>>> >>>> >>>> My website is at http://www.phonomantiques.com/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
