My s/n 2 does not have the service on/off switch.
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> From: glastris at comcast.net
> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:55:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Greg Bogantz)
>
> That lever is for when the mechanism is being taken out of the cabinet.
> It's really not meant to be used for operating the machine, just for moving
> the machine.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Albert"
> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Greg Bogantz)
>
>
>>I also have a A-1, and I play it often, (first rococo grill) but I never
>> could figure out why they put the extra shut off lever on the front left
>> of
>> the bedplate. The lever to lower the reproducer turns the machine on and
>> when you lift it the machine shuts off, so why the extra shut off? kind of
>> redundant, and I never have used it. Also If you are going to play wax
>> amberols I think the model L tracks them better than the M. Al.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George Glastris"
>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Greg Bogantz)
>>
>>
>>> Greg is correct on his points about the IA. I've had mine for almost 20
>>> years and it has followed me around England, then to Boston with a couple
>>> moves in town, then to Chicago with a couple of moves. Of the 50 or so
>>> machines I own or have owned,(not to mention the 1,000s I've handled
>>> professionally) it is by far my favourite. If I could only keep one it
>>> would be the one. Yes, wax Amberols may sound better on a III and Blue
>>> Amberols better on an Opera, but only the IA plays all three as well as
>>> non-Edison celluloids. And you get storage for your 100 fave cylinders.
>>>
>>> And given a choice, the Lyre grille is the best.
>>>
>>> Long live the Amberola IA!!!
>>>
>>> Best to all,
>>> George
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Greg Bogantz"
>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Greg Bogantz)
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bruce, the only reason that I discount the 1A from being the best
>>>> cylinder player is because of its inferior motor. The straight-cut spur
>>>> gears of the 1A are decidedly noisier than the Opera motor of the 1B and
>>>> the
>>>> III. When I first got my 1A, it sounded like and electric drill
>>>> whenever
>>>> I
>>>> ran it. The noise comes mostly from the high speed governor gears, and
>>>> the
>>>> only fix for it is to replace these gears with nearly perfect new ones.
>>>> Try
>>>> to find those anywhere! I got lucky and swapped a fellow collector some
>>>> items for a set of nearly new gears which quieted my 1A down to the
>>>> point
>>>> where it is enjoyable, but still not as quiet as my 1B. The other big
>>>> problem with the 1A is that it doesn't have the mechanical flutter
>>>> filter
>>>> and flywheel that Edison added to some of his later motors such as the
>>>> Opera, Amberola V, and all the late amberolas. The lack of a sufficient
>>>> flywheel coupled with the belt drive of the 1A virtually ensures that
>>>> you'll
>>>> get flutter and wow that is just an essential aspect of this design.
>>>> Acoustically, the 1A is the same as the 1B, but the motor spoils the
>>>> total
>>>> experience a little.
>>>>
>>>> However, since the 1A motor is no worse than any found on any other 2
>>>> minute cylinder machine, the superior horn of the 1A makes it the best
>>>> overall 2 minute machine in my estimation. AND it has the added benefit
>>>> that you can play 2 minute celluloid records with the Diamond A
>>>> reproducer
>>>> which is truly the best 2 minute experience that you can get in a
>>>> commercially made machine. I like my 1A just fine, but I prefer to hear
>>>> 4
>>>> minute celluloids on my 1B or my III.
>>>>
>>>> I don't include the Opera among the very best sounding machines
>>>> because
>>>> I haven't heard ANY commercially made outside horns on cylinder machines
>>>> that are the sonic equal to the horns in the Amberola 1s and III. I
>>>> mentioned on the OTV board that I have a mechanical engineer friend who
>>>> decided to make his own large genuine cygnet shaped exponential outside
>>>> horn. He has fitted it to an Amberola 50 motor which he has put into a
>>>> custom tabletop cabinet. The horn is suspended over the carriage by a
>>>> clever, original design double crane pantographic system that works much
>>>> better than any original design. He calls his machine the "Ediphonic"
>>>> and
>>>> has even put an Edison-style logo on it with that name. The reproducer
>>>> is
>>>> a
>>>> modified Diamond B which has a custom diaphragm in it similar to the
>>>> ones
>>>> that I make. The entire project is very well-done, tidy, and authentic
>>>> looking. I can tell you with "first-ear" assurance that this is the
>>>> BEST
>>>> sounding acoustic 4 minute cylinder player I have EVER heard. The
>>>> exponential horn works wonderfully well with the Diamond B, and the
>>>> results
>>>> from playing the early directly recorded BA records (not the dubs) is
>>>> some
>>>> of the best sounding acoustic reproduction you will ever hear.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Bogantz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From:
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:46 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Greg Bogantz)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greg,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested to know more about why an Amberola 1A would not sound
>>>>> equally as good as the 1B for 4 min wax or blue amberols assuming the
>>>>> correct reproducer is used, (the M for 4 min wax and the diamond A for
>>>>> blue amberols)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Johnson
>>>>> Pod Valem II, 870
>>>>> 252 43 Pruhonice
>>>>> Czech Republic
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tel: (CZ) + 420 602 362 473
>>>>> Tel: (US) + 1 612 605 5242
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> 2. Re: Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Michael F. Khanchalian)
>>>>> 3. Re: Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Steven Medved)
>>>>> 4. Re: Research: Amberolas 1A and 1B (Greg Bogantz)
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