It's good if you are a buyer now, sure, but if you are a seller with a machine 
you bought five or ten years ago, it is hard to get your money back.  I bought 
a nice Victor VI about 10 years ago for $5600, and I couldn't get near that 
now.  I saw them at the CAPS show priced at $4500 and not selling.
John R

- On Mon, 1/17/11, phonofo...@aol.com <phonofo...@aol.com> wrote:

From: phonofo...@aol.com <phonofo...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 5:17 PM

Let's face it folks us collectors were taken advantage of for decades...yes 
decades for both vogue picture records and your most common phonographs. 
Dealers knew these records were not rare and the same goes for your common 
Edison, columbia and victor horned machines but collectors agreed to pay 
outrageous prices on this merchandise. Actually ebay, and also the economy, has 
worked in favor of the collector in that both have taken the wind out of the 
sales (or sails) of the dealers whom I would say for a good 30 plus years 
contolled the prices of the phonograph market. Prices are now at more realistic 
levels than ever before and I do hope they stay realistic for years to come.





-----Original Message-----
From: zonophone2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder


hi all
ell me about it
 have three copies of warsaw concerto
ol
ts still all good


n a message dated 1/17/2011 2:56:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
inyl.visi...@live.com writes:

he  same thing happened with my collection of Vogue Picture Records, which 
t the  time, were as scarce as hen's teeth. For years, I spent my spare 
ime  scrounging through piles of worthless records looking for one or hours 
n the  phone trying to find a collector that might part with a duplicate. 
nd then,  when I found one, I had to pay whatever the person wanted because 
ou just  never found them. Then along comes eBay - and now it's no harder 
han doing a  search and sniping one at a great price and discovering that no 
ne in America  ever threw them away. That's the market of supply and 
emand, as well as a new  generation of people who inherited a collection from 
heir dad or grandfather  and would rather have a new loud muffler on their 
apanese car or a stereo to  blow the body panels off...
> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:41:08  -0800
 From: smst...@gmail.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Theodore Roosevelt cylinder
 
 It's the  economy, it's the internet.
 I own many records and cylinders. Many  very rare. Why own a record? As a
 digital file it as it takes up so  little space.
 And most of the time free or close to free.
 Not  much disposable income out there. On the other hand if I decide to
  collect something different it is always at the top of the market,
  regardless of the economy..[?]
 Mike
 oldcranky
 
  On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:27 AM, john robles <john9...@pacbell.net>  
rote:
 
 > Hello all
 > Well, after I had offered  it here with no takers, I had listed my 
heodore
 > Roosevelt  cylinder on eBay, It used to be that they went for around 
100,
 >  and it only got up to $66. What's your opinion, is this cylinder  
Social
 > and Industrial Justice) just that common, or is it the  economy, or 
hat?
 > Just wondering. I can seem to let it go for  less than $85 so I think 
'll
 > keep it.
 > John  Robles
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