An interesting thread. We know that brown wax speeds vary considerably. Even early discs varied. Later production cylinders settled in to a standard speed but how consistent would that be..? Some manufacturers may have been more diligent than others trying to achieve such consistency.
It all may be a moot point really that you have the speed dialed in to such accuracy but it is an interesting topic. Mike Oldcranky On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> wrote: > > GrnMountianBill, > > Thanks, disc machines are nice to time that way, I like having the tool. > > Steve > > > > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:53:42 -0500 > > From: rochr...@gmail.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way > works great on disc machines > > > > Steven: > > > > All four of my old machines were off (three cylinder machines and a DD) > but > > I tend to like records played a little slower than some people because, > in > > particular, I think the voices sound more natural at slower speeds. I > > recently got a little support for my theory when I read the story "1920s > > Jazz at 78rpm?" in Sandy Brown Jazz ( > > http://www.sandybrownjazz.co.uk/whatsnew.html). I may not be nuts after > > all. > > > > I cut a tiny piece of white sticky paper to attach to the mandrels and > > turntable for the device to read. I also checked my modern electric > > turntables just to see if they are running at the correct speeds. They > were > > pretty close at their fixed speeds; even my old broadcast table on which > I > > play 16" transcriptions. One additional benefit of this device is that > the > > Numark turntable, with which I play most of my 78s, has a variable speed > > control but it is marked in percentage, not rpm. So it is now easy for me > > to find 76 rpm and 80rpm. I still think that these standard speeds are > too > > fast for some records, particularly those made before about 1912. > > > > GrnMountianBill > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > GrnMountainBill > > > > > > You are 100% correct, I saw this one on amazon but I did not realize it > was > > > the same as the one on eBay. Thanks for the post. Have you used yours > and > > > how far off was your machines? > > > > > > On the cylinder machines I set the device on the rail and I use one > record > > > with the sticker on it. Whiteout works, I have one DD record with a > crack, > > > I marked the end of the crack with whiteout to protect my needle and it > > > picked it up. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:02:44 -0500 > > > > From: rochr...@gmail.com > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way > > > works great on disc machines > > > > > > > > Steve: I found mine on Amazon for much less: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N4QY66/ref=asc_df_B001N4QY661415145?smid=AFLT987H7WA7G&tag=dealtmp4800-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B001N4QY66 > > > > > > > > GrnMountainBill > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Cylinder Phono owners, > > > > > > > > > > Are you tired of using those hard to read strobes for your cylinder > > > player > > > > > or the dreaded count the piece of paper hitting your finger? If so > you > > > can > > > > > measure the RPM's with the: > > > > > Wood/Metal Lathe Digital LCD Tachometer RPM Tool/Guage (how the > eBay > > > > > seller spelled it) > > > > > Neither Dave or I are selling them but they work incredibly well. > Dave > > > > > told me about them and I am sharing them with you. Up until now I > used > > > my > > > > > ear to time my cylinder phonos. My triumph was right on, my > standard > > > was > > > > > 1.5 rpm high and my DD was low. Those of you with hundreds of > machines > > > can > > > > > have hours of fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=Wood%2FMetal+Lathe+Digital+LCD+Tachometer+RPM+Tool%2FGuage > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/632kqad > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
