Early jazz did not usually bother to give you the key it was played in.
I just tweak the knob until it sounds correct.
I tried the high tech speed measurements and adjustments and it was not
worth the hassle and you promptly find that the actual recording speed
was not spot on either. And for the real early ones, not consistent
beginning to end. It works with the vinyl 33 1/3 records but for
earlier ones it becomes increasingly more iffy as you go back in time.
On 02/01/2011 11:14 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
The blogger ignores keys at which material might have been published. Play
a record of the Minuet in G then regulate the speed to actually get it in G.
Then you know you are at the right speed for that record.
Ron L
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of William Zucca
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:54 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way works
great on disc machines
Steven:
All four of my old machines were off (three cylinder machines and a DD) but
I tend to like records played a little slower than some people because, in
particular, I think the voices sound more natural at slower speeds. I
recently got a little support for my theory when I read the story "1920s
Jazz at 78rpm?" in Sandy Brown Jazz (
http://www.sandybrownjazz.co.uk/whatsnew.html). I may not be nuts after
all.
I cut a tiny piece of white sticky paper to attach to the mandrels and
turntable for the device to read. I also checked my modern electric
turntables just to see if they are running at the correct speeds. They were
pretty close at their fixed speeds; even my old broadcast table on which I
play 16" transcriptions. One additional benefit of this device is that the
Numark turntable, with which I play most of my 78s, has a variable speed
control but it is marked in percentage, not rpm. So it is now easy for me
to find 76 rpm and 80rpm. I still think that these standard speeds are too
fast for some records, particularly those made before about 1912.
GrnMountianBill
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Steven Medved<[email protected]> wrote:
GrnMountainBill
You are 100% correct, I saw this one on amazon but I did not realize it
was
the same as the one on eBay. Thanks for the post. Have you used yours
and
how far off was your machines?
On the cylinder machines I set the device on the rail and I use one record
with the sticker on it. Whiteout works, I have one DD record with a
crack,
I marked the end of the crack with whiteout to protect my needle and it
picked it up.
Thanks,
Steve
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:02:44 -0500
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way
works great on disc machines
>
Steve: I found mine on Amazon for much less:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N4QY66/ref=asc_df_B001N4QY661415145?smid=AFLT98
7H7WA7G&tag=dealtmp4800-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B001N4Q
Y66
GrnMountainBill
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Steven Medved<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello Cylinder Phono owners,
Are you tired of using those hard to read strobes for your cylinder
player
or the dreaded count the piece of paper hitting your finger? If so you
can
measure the RPM's with the:
Wood/Metal Lathe Digital LCD Tachometer RPM Tool/Guage (how the eBay
seller spelled it)
Neither Dave or I are selling them but they work incredibly well. Dave
told me about them and I am sharing them with you. Up until now I used
my
ear to time my cylinder phonos. My triumph was right on, my standard
was
1.5 rpm high and my DD was low. Those of you with hundreds of machines
can
have hours of fun.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=Wood%2FMetal+Lathe+Digital
+LCD+Tachometer+RPM+Tool%2FGuage
http://tinyurl.com/632kqad
Steve
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