Black wax and Amberols are always 160. Early cylinders are more like 120 but they do vary. When I work on a disk machine, I like to get the speed setting dial set so that when the pointer is set to 78, the turntable is going 78. At least you have a set reference point after that.
Ron L -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Stitt Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 1:46 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way works great on disc machines An interesting thread. We know that brown wax speeds vary considerably. Even early discs varied. Later production cylinders settled in to a standard speed but how consistent would that be..? Some manufacturers may have been more diligent than others trying to achieve such consistency. It all may be a moot point really that you have the speed dialed in to such accuracy but it is an interesting topic. Mike Oldcranky On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Steven Medved <[email protected]> wrote: > > GrnMountianBill, > > Thanks, disc machines are nice to time that way, I like having the tool. > > Steve > > > > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:53:42 -0500 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way > works great on disc machines > > > > Steven: > > > > All four of my old machines were off (three cylinder machines and a DD) > but > > I tend to like records played a little slower than some people because, > in > > particular, I think the voices sound more natural at slower speeds. I > > recently got a little support for my theory when I read the story "1920s > > Jazz at 78rpm?" in Sandy Brown Jazz ( > > http://www.sandybrownjazz.co.uk/whatsnew.html). I may not be nuts after > > all. > > > > I cut a tiny piece of white sticky paper to attach to the mandrels and > > turntable for the device to read. I also checked my modern electric > > turntables just to see if they are running at the correct speeds. They > were > > pretty close at their fixed speeds; even my old broadcast table on which > I > > play 16" transcriptions. One additional benefit of this device is that > the > > Numark turntable, with which I play most of my 78s, has a variable speed > > control but it is marked in percentage, not rpm. So it is now easy for me > > to find 76 rpm and 80rpm. I still think that these standard speeds are > too > > fast for some records, particularly those made before about 1912. > > > > GrnMountianBill > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Steven Medved <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > GrnMountainBill > > > > > > You are 100% correct, I saw this one on amazon but I did not realize it > was > > > the same as the one on eBay. Thanks for the post. Have you used yours > and > > > how far off was your machines? > > > > > > On the cylinder machines I set the device on the rail and I use one > record > > > with the sticker on it. Whiteout works, I have one DD record with a > crack, > > > I marked the end of the crack with whiteout to protect my needle and it > > > picked it up. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:02:44 -0500 > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way > > > works great on disc machines > > > > > > > > Steve: I found mine on Amazon for much less: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N4QY66/ref=asc_df_B001N4QY661415145?smid=AFLT98 7H7WA7G&tag=dealtmp4800-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B001N4Q Y66 > > > > > > > > GrnMountainBill > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Steven Medved <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Cylinder Phono owners, > > > > > > > > > > Are you tired of using those hard to read strobes for your cylinder > > > player > > > > > or the dreaded count the piece of paper hitting your finger? If so > you > > > can > > > > > measure the RPM's with the: > > > > > Wood/Metal Lathe Digital LCD Tachometer RPM Tool/Guage (how the > eBay > > > > > seller spelled it) > > > > > Neither Dave or I are selling them but they work incredibly well. > Dave > > > > > told me about them and I am sharing them with you. Up until now I > used > > > my > > > > > ear to time my cylinder phonos. My triumph was right on, my > standard > > > was > > > > > 1.5 rpm high and my DD was low. Those of you with hundreds of > machines > > > can > > > > > have hours of fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m570&_nkw=Wood%2FMetal+Lathe+Digital +LCD+Tachometer+RPM+Tool%2FGuage > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/632kqad > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
