On Wednesday, April 18, 2001, at 05:33  PM, Zeev Suraski wrote:
> Guys,
> Over the years, there's always been a tendency to think about things 
> which are 10 steps ahead.  It never worked, and I don't think it would 
> work here either.

Well, a program spec (or idea) is certainly not the reality of the final 
codebase.

But if we don't think a few steps ahead, (or at least know where it's 
going), it's kind of hard to determine the steps to take here and now, 
or know where it's really going. I posted a list, and we discovered that 
PEAR already has dependancies on some /ext's, and (by implication) that 
if this continues in PEAR, eventually many of the minor ext's may need 
to be built to run PEAR.... in which case we may want to leave the /ext 
directory out of PEAR entirely.

If something is going to be a possibility, it should probably be 
considered before we build ourselves into a corner, and implementing it 
becomes impossible.

>  Whether or not we separate modules *at all* will greatly depend on how 
> good an implementation we end up having.

Agreed 100%.
But that implementation, as it happens requires some feedback and 
discussion, doesn't it?

>  How many of them we end up separating will also depend on that.  Let's 
> just wait with those discussions until they're somehow connected with 
> reality.

Counterpoint to this, of course, is that if we _would_ be doing this 
with a PEAR scheme, we'd need to design that into PEAR, preferrably 
without having to re-write PEAR from scratch to accomodate this idea. :-)


-Ronabop

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