At 12:48 3.5. 2001, Andi Gutmans wrote the following:
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>At 12:47 PM 5/3/2001 +0200, Cynic wrote:
>>Zeev,
>>
>>do you think ASF is a Nazi-like group? I don't think so.
>>Nor do I witness endless discussions caused by the fact that
>>the Apache release cycle is far (in a galaxy far, far away.. :)
>>stricter than the PHP one.
>
>Is it? I'm not that sure. They also release with known bugs although I admit to not
>knowing their exact release cycle so I won't comment more on this :) By the way, in
>Zeev's not very successful way of using that N word what he meant was a dictatorship
>that makes binary decisions about everyone else. That's all he meant IMO.
Well, AFAICT only a limited group of people can commit, and
whoever (including the commiters) has a patch, it's proposed,
and discussed. That means nothing is committed without peer
review. I think this qualifies as "far stricter". :)
>>4.0.5 took very long to release, and it seems like it could
>>have been released a month ago - pl1 is inevitable anyway.
>
>I don't see a pl1 happening. We will go right to 4.0.6.
If that happens soon... Labels are just labels. :)
>>On the other hand, I must say that the win32 version of PHP
>>these days is great. When I recall the days 6-8 months ago,
>>it's incredible how much has been achieved.
>>
>>One more thing: unless I'm mistaken, vast majority of people
>>who have raised their voices has voted for tighter rules.
>>I'm of the same opinion. Without an effective way to impose
>>their judgement, the QA team is just a joke.
(...)
>In any case, thank god we don't have communication problems so I think everyone's
>voice will be heard when patches are merged into the release branch.
>Anyway, why are we continuing to waste time on this instead of fixing bugs and
>emptying the bugs database.
>4.0.5 was pretty fine and we'll tighten things for 4.0.6. I'm sure that after this
>whole Email exchange more people will be watching the release branch and more people
>will be shouting "STOP". And they will be heard!
>It'll work out OK. Don't worry about it.
So in the end, this wasn't a waste of time.
Ok, just from memory, at least these people are shouting
"no new features in the release branch" (in no particular order):
James Moore, Zak Greant, Jani Taskinen, Sascha Schumann, Derick
Rethans, Steve Langasek, and me. Are we heard? :)
Don't get me wrong, things are getting better, but they wouldn't
be without being talked about. That is, I'm not complaining or
something.
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And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
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