Ken Egervari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Usually that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attritude is just the
> thing to make a technology less and less useful and eventually it'll
> be antiquated.  Eseentially, it is already is.  Don't get me wrong,
> just because it's out of date doesn't mean it still isn't useful.  I
> just think that even in an opensource community, there would be
> leaders and people looking towards the future.

so, should we gather the cardinals and elect you pope now?

> Like I said, I think its time PHP started moving forward and developed
> a new vision for itself and the community.

yes! the new build system that sascha introduced wasn't a move forward.
stig (and the large cast of others) working on building the pear 
infrastructure aren't moving forward. rasmus is standing firm as he
looks at integrating the gd library more tightly into php. andi (and
others) are blocking progress with all that work on the new zend engine.
i wish derick and jani would stop building things like the build tracker
at qa.php.net to make the qa process go smoother. i wish yasuo would
stop working on the postgresql and session extensions and just give it a
rest. that crazy andrei, creating things like the aggregate and overload
extensions -- he needs to stop holding us back! don't get me started
about wez and all that damn streams stuff! (do i need to continue?)

people *are* looking forward. they're leading with code. what do you
think we're doing here? waiting around for someone to tell us what to
do?

jim

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