That's probably the most civilized flame I've ever read. I'm impressed!

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From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: The PHP Platform


Cool!  This is about as worked up as I have ever seen Jim.  ;)

-Rasmus

On 13 Apr 2002, Jim Winstead wrote:

> Ken Egervari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Usually that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attritude is just the

> > thing to make a technology less and less useful and eventually it'll

> > be antiquated.  Eseentially, it is already is.  Don't get me wrong,
> > just because it's out of date doesn't mean it still isn't useful.  I

> > just think that even in an opensource community, there would be
> > leaders and people looking towards the future.
>
> so, should we gather the cardinals and elect you pope now?
>
> > Like I said, I think its time PHP started moving forward and
> > developed a new vision for itself and the community.
>
> yes! the new build system that sascha introduced wasn't a move
> forward. stig (and the large cast of others) working on building the
> pear infrastructure aren't moving forward. rasmus is standing firm as
> he looks at integrating the gd library more tightly into php. andi
> (and
> others) are blocking progress with all that work on the new zend
engine.
> i wish derick and jani would stop building things like the build
tracker
> at qa.php.net to make the qa process go smoother. i wish yasuo would
> stop working on the postgresql and session extensions and just give it
a
> rest. that crazy andrei, creating things like the aggregate and
overload
> extensions -- he needs to stop holding us back! don't get me started
> about wez and all that damn streams stuff! (do i need to continue?)
>
> people *are* looking forward. they're leading with code. what do you
> think we're doing here? waiting around for someone to tell us what to
> do?
>
> jim
>
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