> Am Donnerstag, 6. Juni 2002 19:59 schrieb Dan Hardiker:
>> I sit in many PHP channels (IRC), and observe many class-based
>> PHP networks (php-classes.org is one I monitor closely) and
>> can say definatly that the majority of PHP users want *more*
>> OO capabilities in PHP.
[..]
> So when users ask for "more OO" in PHP, they usually want Java
> and Java capabilities for the price of their current PHP site,
> and a migration path towards this. Since there is no such thing,
> they end up trying to turn PHP into Java.

I disagree *very* strongly with this statement. When people ask for more
OO they want more OO! Its like saying that if people wanted VC++ to be
more OOed then they would just be wanting Delphi... which is just untrue.
The masses are asking for more flexability and expanded capabilities - not
to turn PHP into anything its not already. PHP is a partially OOed
language currently, extending it into other OO areas
(public/private/protected methods & variables) is not altering the
language structure, aim or purpose.
What the masses are *not* asking for is for PHP to do things the "java
way". That has never been suggested or hinted at... anyone wanting this
can go use Java.
I dont want to use java for my current projects - there is JSP but it
doesnt fit for the majority of the projects I do (right tool for the right
job). Giving PHP extra OOP capabilities would extend what I can do with
PHP and where I can use it. This isnt about cost of using PHP over Java
.... its about the right tool for the right job to complete at the right
speed.

-- 
Dan Hardiker [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
ADAM Software & Systems Engineer
First Creative Ltd



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