Where are the instances of behavior and/or communication issues within 
PHP-FIG presented so people can actually judge for themselves? Can we see 
some actual examples of this behavior or communication which these 
complaints refer to? I still have yet to see any evidence of this presented 
anywhere in this thread. Did I miss it somewhere? All I have seen are 
people's opinions on said behavior or communication.


On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 2:58:40 PM UTC-6, Larry Garfield wrote:
>
> Hm, yeah that was mentioned you're right.  And that mention is 
> inappropriate, as the issue isn't political views elsewhere (as mentioned, 
> I know many people here who disagree politically but are still able to 
> collaborate) but behavior and communication issues here in FIG.
>
> My point regarding the Reddit thread stands, though; it was quite 
> disappointing to see someone try to derail the issue in that way 
> (apparently with at least some success).
>
> --Larry Garfield
>
> On 07/13/2016 02:24 PM, Tom Etzel wrote:
>
> I've read through every post on this thread. Paul's politics have been 
> mentioned more than a few times by more than a few people on this thread. 
> For instance: 
>
> "> Paul is an asset to this project that needs to be cared for! 
>
> PMJ is a human being that needs to be cared for the same as any other 
> human being. But that is not this groups responsibility. Any benefits 
> that PMJ brings to this group also come with a mountain of baggage and 
> politics that I personally want nothing to do with. If this group 
> continues to allow PMJ to serve as a voting member, they are 
> implicitly saying that his communication style, politics, and 
> leadership within the community deserve respect and consideration. "
>
> That's a direct quote from Woody Gilk on July 12th. You can find it toward 
> the bottom on page 5.
>
> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 12:15:25 PM UTC-5, Larry Garfield wrote: 
>>
>> On 07/12/2016 06:56 PM, Chris Johnson wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Much of this does appear to stem from the dislike of his politics.  I 
>> > don't find his politics germane.  Inability to work with people of 
>> > differing political views is no recipe for success (just look where 
>> > that lack has gotten the USA in the past couple decades).\ 
>>
>> I am reasonably sure the only place that "his politics" came up was in 
>> the Reddit thread, where the group moderator spent a lot of time 
>> insisting that calling Paul to task is all about revenge for being 
>> anti-CoC.  That's a red herring, a fictitious one, and I would 
>> appreciate it if you would not drag that nonsense in here. Repeating a 
>> lie doesn't make it true. 
>>
>> --Larry Garfield 
>>
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