On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 at 7:31:34 AM UTC-5, Woody Gilk wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Tom Etzel <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Paul is an asset to this project that needs to be cared for! > > PMJ is a human being that needs to be cared for the same as any other > human being. But that is not this groups responsibility. Any benefits > that PMJ brings to this group also come with a mountain of baggage and > politics that I personally want nothing to do with. If this group > continues to allow PMJ to serve as a voting member, they are > implicitly saying that his communication style, politics, and > leadership within the community deserve respect and consideration. > -- > Woody Gilk > http://about.me/shadowhand >
That started well (a human to be cared for the same as any other human being), then went off the rails, in my view. I'd posit we all have responsibility to "care for" other human beings at all times, in all places, and in all interactions. I see a big lack of empathy going on in this thread (know the correct meaning of empathy). Imagine it were you being pilloried by the group; how would you feel? How would you react -- especially after you poured years of hard work into the group's efforts? This is regardless of your own personal behavior, because nobody is without sin here. Much of this does appear to stem from the dislike of his politics. I don't find his politics germane. Inability to work with people of differing political views is no recipe for success (just look where that lack has gotten the USA in the past couple decades). I've communicated with Paul directly and in forums about his PHP projects, and have always found him to be respectful, helpful, humble and often apologetic that he couldn't do more for people using his code. How is it that some of you have such a hard time with him? At this point, hopes are slim any good will come of this, because it's going to require a lot of big egos to swallow their pride and politics, and actually try to work together in a respectful, compassionate, cooperative fashion. High emotions lead to cognitive failures. It's always a struggle. -- Chris Johnson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/d5ca8dab-08ac-442a-9521-cde15cc5da4f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
