Hello Andrea,

I am developing with PHP since now 12 years (did a couple stuff in
Zend Core), and was one of a few guy using and sharing about php when
it was only an THE Apache mode in the world C++ CGI, I am not Zend
Certified, I won't :),  anyway those things make me smarter or give me
the "truth" or the right to be a jerk?,

you came here to claim that you were right not to discuss, what did
you expect?, if you want to discuss we can, but I can tell you I don't
share your points at all, it is not my way to  code in scripting
language. back to silence.


On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Andrea Giammarchi <an_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I can only say if these are our prespective about innovation and 
> technologies, we need to thanks silly people like me moving further than what 
> is already there and common convention.
> This ML is a bit different from what I was expecting, fortunately who 
> understood the project and gave it a try to test it has been happy with it.
> Finally, I am working with FirePHP developer for a FirePHP + Formaldehyde 
> natural integration in FirePHP and obviously he liked Formaldehyde, since 
> there's nothing like that inside FirePHP - they are simply different, and 
> FirePHP does not manage Fatal Errors and other crucial one.
> The good part is that at least you know there is that possibility, so the day 
> you'll realize that your set_error_handler could be useless in certain 
> circumstances you'll probably re-evaluate Formaldehyde ;-)
> Thanks to those who tried or tried to understand.
> Regards
> P.S. I am certified Zend Engineer with 10 years of experience with PHP and 
> dunno how many innovation awards  in phpclasses.org ... so it was not just to 
> waste my time guys, and it is open source, maybe next time I'll keep for me
>> From: jasdeb...@gmail.com
>> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:37:01 +0200
>> To: php-general@lists.php.net
>> Subject: Re: [PHP] RE: [Formaldehyde] The Most Basic Ajax - PHP Error 
>> Debugger
>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Jim Lucas <li...@cmsws.com> wrote:
>> > Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
>> >
>> >> something I cannot find in any other library or framework.
>> >>
>> >
>> > This should tell you something then...
>> >
>> > If something like Formandehyde isn't useful, then why is Charles so popular
>> (note: popular from my perspective. I wouldn't dare think that it is popular
>> with anyone on this list unless they expressly told me so)
>> http://www.charlesproxy.com/ . I can't say anything about the responses
>> Andrea has gotten without sounding rude and likely starting an internet
>> fight, so I won't say anything. Except for this. Tedd, the ajax example you
>> linked to does not need any debugging, that is for sure.
>> > --
>> > Jim Lucas
>> >
>> >   "Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness,
>> >       and some have greatness thrust upon them."
>> >
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>> >
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