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> From: Dotan Cohen <dotanco...@gmail.com>
> To: Bipin Upadhyay <muxical.g...@gmail.com>
> Cc: a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk; php-general. <php-general@lists.php.net>
> Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 11:29:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [PHP] How to pronounce PHP code over the phone?
> 
> > There are, what you'd call, technical jargon for them.
> > However, it'd pretty obviously depend on the extent of knowledge of the
> > person on other side of phone line. If she understands PHP objects,
> > difference between OOP in PHP4 & PHP5, and ternary operator, things would be
> > fairly simple.
> >
> 
> Yes, the other end of the phone is an experienced PHP developer.
> 

IMO, if you have to explain this code over the phone or any medium:

($item->getServiceId() ? $item->getServiceId() : $item->getId())));

The other person you're talking to is definitely not "experienced".  ;)

Regards,
Tommy

> 
> > In any case, Ashley's nailed the foolproof technique for sure :)
> 
> But I am the fool to prove it! No internet access!
> 
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> 
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