On Wednesday 24 March 2010 21:42:53 Tommy Pham wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sancar Saran <sancar.sa...@evodot.com> 
> > On Wednesday 24 March 2010 03:17:56 Tommy Pham wrote:
> >> Let's go back to my 1st e-commerce example.  The manufacturers list is
> >> about 3,700.  The categories is about about 2,400.  The products list
> >> is right now at 500,000 and expected to be around 750,000.  The site
> >> is only in English.  The store owner wants to expand and be I18n:
> >> Chinese, French, German, Korean, Spanish.  You see how big and complex
> >> that database gets?  The store owners want to have this happens when a
> >> customer clicks on a category:
> >> 
> >> * show all subcategories for that category, if any
> >> * show all products for that category, if any,
> >> * show all manufacturers, used as filtering, for that category and
> >> subcategories * show price range filter for that category
> >> * show features & specifications filter for that category
> >> * show 10 top sellers for that category and related subcategories
> >> * the shopper can then select/deselect any of those filters and
> >> ability to sort by manufacturers, prices, user rating, popularity
> >> (purchased quantity)
> >> * have the ability to switch to another language translation on the fly
> >> * from the moment the shopper click on a link, the response time (when
> >> web browser saids "Done" in the status bar) is 5 seconds or less.
> >> Preferably 2-3 seconds. Will be using stopwatch for the timer.
> >> 
> >> Now show me a website that meets those requirements and uses PHP, I'll
> >> be glad to support your argument about PHP w/o threads :)  BTW, this
> >> is not even enterprise requirement.  I may have another possible
> >> project where # products is over 10 million easily.  With similar
> >> requirements when the user click on category.  Do you think this site,
> >> which currently isn't, can run on PHP?
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Tommy
> > 
> > If you design and code correctly. Yes.
> > 
> > 
> > If you want to use someting alredy. Try TYPO3.
> > 
> > PS: Your arguments are something about implementation not something about
> > platform abilities. You can do this things any server side programming
> > with enough hardware.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Sancar
> Platform abilities = PHP with/without threads.
> Implementation = If PHP has threads, how do I implement it.  If not,
> what work around / hacks do I need to do.

Please forgive my low ability on English and you sound like.

"I can drive a car, if it has a diesel engine and we want Ferrari for our 
need. Is there any way to fit a diesel engine in Ferrari  ?"

Your problem isn't php, You problem is your way to think...

You are trying to bend php to fit your way of the building web sites.

I'm sorry, things does not work like that. 

You are trying to represent your business logic as "ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE 

I'm sorry, it wont ! 

Even with provocative subject, it still business logic at large.

On Large Web sites, Site has own standards which enterprise must have to 
obey.. (like Facebook or any other uber number cruncher you name it)


You want to build a damn huge web site with damn huge data set and damn huge 
requests per second.

and  you still want to use that SQL for primary data store for reading.


With this kind of approach,

You will be in deep trouble with any language, with any Reational SQL Server.

If your customers need that kind of thing. You need lots of sophisticated 
people which know how to handle big things under web enviroment.

Good luck to you. 



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