I don't know the nature of your feud, but Manuel is right on here, as far as I'm
concerned. Sterling's comments were unwarranted, unjust, and stupid.

Rise above it man.

Manuel Lemos wrote:

> Hello,
> Sterling Hughes wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2002-02-02 at 17:42, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Lars Wilhelmsen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Ben Clumeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > I would like to send an e-mail (the same e-mail) to 1,000 different
> > > > people.
> > > > > I want each persons name to be in the "To:" field.  Is there a way to
> > > > > customize it to where it can say Dear____ (having a different persons name
> > > > > corresponding to an e-mail address) so that it looks customized.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ben
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > What you are describing is called SPAMMING, something
> > > > we really, really dislike.
> > >
> > > You are confused. Spamming is sending the same message to the same
> > > person more than once.
> > >
> > > What I think you mean is unsolicited e-mail. The original poster did not
> > > mention whether the people he wants to mail want to receive his
> > > messages, so you can't assume that is necessarily unsolicited.
> > >
> >
> > I think you are confused...  Unsolicited e-mail is in fact the
> > definition of spam!
> No, with time, people started confusing definitions. You may not be
> aware of it because you were too young and by that time you probably
> even did not knew about what was the Internet. AFAIK, spam was, in the
> early days when there was not even the Web, what was called to
> cross-posting the same message to multiple newsgroups. Remeber Monty
> Python sketch, they were complaining of more of the same spam.
> Since often spam is also unsolicited, people started confusing concepts.
> In mailing lists and newsgroups like this, messages are only unsolicited
> when they become completely off-topic, which is not the case. You ought
> to study a little history first before you decide to make any of my
> message yet another pointless personal attack.
> > Secondly, reasonable assumptions can often be made, for example, when I
> > see a message from you, its almost guaranteed that you'll be plugging
> > PHPClasses, or Metabase, or both.  Assumptions are why killfiles were
> > invented.
> Sterling, you seem to be sick if you are watching every message I post
> to jumping in to attack me or my work.
> I was not even promoting the PHP Classes site. If I were I would post
> its URL, which I didn't. I was sharing my knowledge on sending messages
> to a large number of recipients. It happens that my knowledge on bulk
> mailing is based on my experience sending notifications to the site
> subscribers.
> Since you are so obcessed to attack me probably because of possible
> stupid envy, you could only see my message as another plug to promote
> the site.
> Sterling, get a grip, you would do much better in get rid of those
> unjustifiable sick feelings that you hold against somebody like myself
> that is still bothering to contribute to the PHP community providing a
> PHP component sharing site that is accessed by many tens of thousands of
> PHP users.
> Another thing, is that you are so ungrateful because whatever I do to
> let people know about the PHP Classes site is to bring people to the
> site not only to share and benefit for each other PHP components, but
> also to provide a substantial audience not only to the components that
> the users share, but also to the reviews of PHP books like your own: PHP
> Developers Cookbook.
> http://phpclasses.upperdesign.com/products.html/id/0672319241
> I even tried to make a nice review, as usually I do with all books I
> review because I know that it takes a lot of time to write a good book
> and in the time you spent writing it you would probably earn more money
> working on some paid PHP project than whatever you may ever earn from
> selling the book.
> I know that it isn't much, but 710 users went to Amazon eventually to
> buy the your book because of this review. It is an humble contribution
> to compensate for your effort and of other PHP book writers.
> Anyway, I am considering discontinuing this section of the PHP Classes
> site because it is not providing enough income to cover for the site
> expenses. Now, after I read your personal attacks I wonder why am I
> waiting to discontinue it when all I get for attempting to promote the
> site to bring in more audience also for the book reviews, is just
> personal attacks from authors like yourself?
> Of course this hurts me bad, but I am kind of used to the hostility that
> I get of envious unsensible PHP developers like yourself.
> Right, now, if you do not have anything nicer to say to me, please don't
> even bother to mail me.
> Regards,
> Manuel Lemos
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