If we're talking small potatoes, I'm sure there are a number of US
entities (ALU, LispNYC) that would happily front their EIN for a cool

On 2014-9-22, 5:26 AM, andr...@itship.ch wrote:
> Once more, congratulation! This is awesome!
> I really believe this is/will be huge.
> 1. kickstarter
> Afaik you need a US tax number to use kickstarter, so either a us citizen
> oder better a us company is necessary. It's possible to do a setup by
> creating a cheap delaware company, I know guys who did it, but its quite a
> bit complex for non-us people.
> So I would recommend using another platform, or even first trying to use
> this mailling list or a custom website to set a crowd project up from
> this.
> Maybe you don't even need a crowdfunding project, if we find enough people
> this way?
> 2. PilMCU applications
> Beside the wearable/mobile/robotics applications (go for it!), I'm
> personally interested in picolisp server hardware. Maybe producing
> something similiar to Intel NUC
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Unit_of_Computing) ?
> So extendable RAM plus storage plus network plug, and we would have a fine
> little box for all kind of server applications. No OS overhead, no stack
> security issues (heartbleed), just beautiful picolisp.
> This would also allow to produce/sell custom solutions, e.g. put software
> on cheap tiny hardware box, sell the device, similiar to kinko
> (https://kinko.me/the-kinko-project/)
> 3. OpenSource legitimacy
> About this one I'm not sure, its more a philosophical thing, maybe I got
> it wrong:
> With traditional soft- and hardware, there is the problem, that even with
> a copy of the source code of a certain application, we can't be sure that
> the actual running instance of the application uses the same source code
> and didn't get altered by a malware-injecting compiler.
> Let's say we have hardware which interprets picolisp directly, and does
> nothing else (which one can proof about a certain piece of hardware).
> And picolisp applicaiton is always readable clear text source code, so
> isn't this actually an instance were we can "proof" WHAT the hardware and
> software of this thing is doing, even when running?
>> Good morning everyone!
>> Wow! thanks for all this nice feedback's, a nice way to greet a morning
>> weekend :)
>> Btw sorry if i cannot individually reply on each topic, but let me share
>> my thoughts on this two topic that is recently on the table:
>> 1. Kickstarter or Indigogo
>> 2. Verilog source code availability
>> 1. Actually this is what i suggested to Alex for we  had a customer here
>> before that we produced his product from kicksarter. But from what i
>> understand, inorder to register our project we need a video to show the
>> early progress of the project. Its either we can make a video showing the
>> verilog simulator running OR emulator in C running? but i think it would
>> be great to show an actual FPGA board running the pilMCU, this option
>> would be more attractive right? so my primary goal as of now is to get an
>> FPGA board from online and start synthesize the code for the actual FPGA
>> hardware. Anyone with experience with FPGA is welcome to provide their
>> inputs ;)
>> 2. This i need to discuss with Alex first. But if you ask me, actually
>> there were good points shared here, but i think its still too early too
>> release the code for it is still at design stage and as much as possible,
>> me and Alex would like to stabilize the core first and also to have a
>> robust kit first. If anyone wants to try the machine, as of the moment the
>> best way is to run the 'emu' version :) but don't worry, picolisp
>> community will surely be the first to have an actual hands-on once the
>> actual hardware is ready ;)
>> Great weekend everyone, cheers!!
>> BR,
>> Geo
>> On Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:46 AM, Thorsten Jolitz
>> <tjol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Christophe Gragnic
>> <christophegrag...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Loyall, David
>>> <david.loy...@nebraska.gov> wrote:
>>>> If you sell a FPGA configured to be an open source Lisp CPU, I'll
>>>> buy a few
>>> Someone on Hacker News: «where's the kickstarter page? I want a few of
>>> those.»
>>> I'd buy a few too.
>> Thats the idea, I would say: buy the chips and support the project. Give
>> them time to prepare a nice kickstarter project. Enjoy the opportunity
>> to support a wonderful free software project to become not only a
>> technical but an economic success too.
>> You ask them to give away their most important 'capital' to the public
>> before even starting the business. Not a good advice, really ...
>> --
>> cheers,
>> Thorsten
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