I hit send too soon, All of this hosting aside. I have 3 dedicated servers,
one is a dual Xeon server with 80-some GB ram, it runs as a VM host for all
sorts of things for me. and 2 mac mini's one is a windows server (I know
but professionally speaking this is a good thing for me to keep in touch
with). and the other is a linux server. they are a great low-power
solution. (look for older 2012 models if you go this route)


On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:09 AM Stephen Partington <[email protected]>
wrote:

> For cost/efficiency, it is hard to beat some of the online hosting
> options. Dreamhost has a shared plan with unlimited everything and a domain
> for 9 per month (down to 3 for 1 or 3 years paid upfront) 10 per month Ifor
> a VPS.
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 3:45 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think you'll find that server of yours used closer to $500 than $120.
>> Based on the 600watt number that you gave your usage would look like this
>> on SRP right now under their normal flat rate plan:
>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per
>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) Total
>> Cost (Cost per time period)
>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.6 0.06546 1.57104 191.66688
>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.6 0.06942 1.66608 103.29696
>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.6 0.04692 1.12608 204.94656
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Grand Total 499.9104
>> Even if you machine used half the power you specified it would still be
>> about twice what you thought it was.
>>
>> I always recommend that people don't use their old computers when it
>> comes to use cases like using them for routers  because it's MUCH cheaper
>> to buy something like a PI or a dedicated router than it is pay for power
>> to feel a machine that uses waaay more than you need to.
>> With a raspberry pi under worst case useage with it being use to 100%
>> capacity you'd only get charged $6.32 per year, but it would most likely be
>> closer to it's idling cost of $2.82 for power:
>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per
>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) Total
>> Cost (Cost per time period)
>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.0076 0.00082916 0.01989984 2.42778048
>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.0076 0.00087932 0.02110368 1.30842816
>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.0076 0.00059432 0.01426368
>> 2.59598976
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Grand Total 6.3321984
>>
>> Brian Cluff
>>
>> On 7/21/21 3:50 PM, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>
>> Back when I ran a home server on my Athlon X2 with 1500 W supply, the 
>> machine never drew that much. Even with several disks spinning, 8 VMWare 
>> instances going and a few other goodies, that machine never drew more than 
>> 600w at maximum. I kept it live 24/7 for a few years and it added less than 
>> $120 yearly to the electrical bill. These days, that machine is out of 
>> service and is only good for parts. My Mac mini, which draws at most 100 W 
>> under full load is on 24/7 and I don’t even see it add that much to the 
>> electrical bill here. There are really only 3 high draw appliances in this 
>> house now:
>> 1. The refrigerator
>> 2. The stove/oven
>> 3. The master cool evaporative cooler. Everything else either runs on wall 
>> warts or only gets used occasionally. In fact, we spend less than $150 a 
>> month here for electric. Now, if I put that Athlon X2 back into service, we 
>> might see $10 a month in extra use. I am still contemplating putting it back 
>> up and using it as my go to linux development machine.
>>
>> -Eric
>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Utilities Dept.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server from 
>> home:
>>
>> Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying around doing 
>> nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost of 
>> powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very expensive. A 250W 
>> desktop computer running 24 hours per day at 12 cents per KW/h is a whopping 
>> $262.00 per year!
>>
>> ---
>> I think their math is wrong.
>>
>> The average residential electricity rate in Chandler is 10.85¢/kWh.
>>
>> I'm thinking a low traffic PHP web server running on an old Dell with a 400 
>> watt power supply is not using but maybe 100 watts on average.  I've read 
>> that the computer should use no more than half the power supply capacity.  
>> Is this correct?
>>
>> If my home web server is using 100 watts an hour that mean 100 watts * 30 
>> days * 24 hours or 72K watts.
>>
>> I'm thinking 72 * .1085 = $7.81 a month.
>>
>> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
>>
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