Please use literally anyone but Dreamhost. 

> On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:13 AM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I hit send too soon, All of this hosting aside. I have 3 dedicated servers, 
> one is a dual Xeon server with 80-some GB ram, it runs as a VM host for all 
> sorts of things for me. and 2 mac mini's one is a windows server (I know but 
> professionally speaking this is a good thing for me to keep in touch with). 
> and the other is a linux server. they are a great low-power solution. (look 
> for older 2012 models if you go this route)
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:09 AM Stephen Partington <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> For cost/efficiency, it is hard to beat some of the online hosting options. 
>> Dreamhost has a shared plan with unlimited everything and a domain for 9 per 
>> month (down to 3 for 1 or 3 years paid upfront) 10 per month Ifor a VPS.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 3:45 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I think you'll find that server of yours used closer to $500 than $120.  
>>> Based on the 600watt number that you gave your usage would look like this 
>>> on SRP right now under their normal flat rate plan:
>>> Months      Number of Days  Kwh Cost        Machine Load in Kilo watts      
>>> Cost per hour(KWH cost times wattage)   Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 
>>> hours)       Total Cost (Cost per time period)
>>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct  122     0.1091  0.6     0.06546 1.57104 191.66688
>>> Jul,Aug     62      0.1157  0.6     0.06942 1.66608 103.29696
>>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April      182     0.0782  0.6     0.04692 1.12608 
>>> 204.94656
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Grand Total 499.9104
>>> 
>>> Even if you machine used half the power you specified it would still be 
>>> about twice what you thought it was.
>>> 
>>> I always recommend that people don't use their old computers when it comes 
>>> to use cases like using them for routers  because it's MUCH cheaper to buy 
>>> something like a PI or a dedicated router than it is pay for power to feel 
>>> a machine that uses waaay more than you need to.
>>> With a raspberry pi under worst case useage with it being use to 100% 
>>> capacity you'd only get charged $6.32 per year, but it would most likely be 
>>> closer to it's idling cost of $2.82 for power:
>>> Months      Number of Days  Kwh Cost        Machine Load in Kilo watts      
>>> Cost per hour(KWH cost times wattage)   Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 
>>> hours)       Total Cost (Cost per time period)
>>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct  122     0.1091  0.0076  0.00082916      0.01989984      
>>> 2.42778048
>>> Jul,Aug     62      0.1157  0.0076  0.00087932      0.02110368      
>>> 1.30842816
>>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April      182     0.0782  0.0076  0.00059432      
>>> 0.01426368      2.59598976
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Grand Total 6.3321984
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brian Cluff
>>> 
>>> On 7/21/21 3:50 PM, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>> Back when I ran a home server on my Athlon X2 with 1500 W supply, the 
>>>> machine never drew that much. Even with several disks spinning, 8 VMWare 
>>>> instances going and a few other goodies, that machine never drew more than 
>>>> 600w at maximum. I kept it live 24/7 for a few years and it added less 
>>>> than $120 yearly to the electrical bill. These days, that machine is out 
>>>> of service and is only good for parts. My Mac mini, which draws at most 
>>>> 100 W under full load is on 24/7 and I don’t even see it add that much to 
>>>> the electrical bill here. There are really only 3 high draw appliances in 
>>>> this house now:
>>>> 1. The refrigerator
>>>> 2. The stove/oven 
>>>> 3. The master cool evaporative cooler. Everything else either runs on wall 
>>>> warts or only gets used occasionally. In fact, we spend less than $150 a 
>>>> month here for electric. Now, if I put that Athlon X2 back into service, 
>>>> we might see $10 a month in extra use. I am still contemplating putting it 
>>>> back up and using it as my go to linux development machine.
>>>> 
>>>> -Eric
>>>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Utilities Dept.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server 
>>>>> from home:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying around doing 
>>>>> nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost of 
>>>>> powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very expensive. A 
>>>>> 250W desktop computer running 24 hours per day at 12 cents per KW/h is a 
>>>>> whopping $262.00 per year!
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---
>>>>> I think their math is wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The average residential electricity rate in Chandler is 10.85¢/kWh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm thinking a low traffic PHP web server running on an old Dell with a 
>>>>> 400 watt power supply is not using but maybe 100 watts on average.  I've 
>>>>> read that the computer should use no more than half the power supply 
>>>>> capacity.  Is this correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> If my home web server is using 100 watts an hour that mean 100 watts * 30 
>>>>> days * 24 hours or 72K watts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm thinking 72 * .1085 = $7.81 a month.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
>>>>> 
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>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
> 
> 
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> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
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> Stephen
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