I am curious, they have treated me very well over the years.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:29 AM Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Is Dreamhost a terrible abuser of privacy?
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:24 AM Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Please use literally anyone but Dreamhost.
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:13 AM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I hit send too soon, All of this hosting aside. I have 3 dedicated
>> servers, one is a dual Xeon server with 80-some GB ram, it runs as a VM
>> host for all sorts of things for me. and 2 mac mini's one is a windows
>> server (I know but professionally speaking this is a good thing for me to
>> keep in touch with). and the other is a linux server. they are a great
>> low-power solution. (look for older 2012 models if you go this route)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:09 AM Stephen Partington <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For cost/efficiency, it is hard to beat some of the online hosting
>>> options. Dreamhost has a shared plan with unlimited everything and a domain
>>> for 9 per month (down to 3 for 1 or 3 years paid upfront) 10 per month Ifor
>>> a VPS.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 3:45 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think you'll find that server of yours used closer to $500 than
>>>> $120.  Based on the 600watt number that you gave your usage would look like
>>>> this on SRP right now under their normal flat rate plan:
>>>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per
>>>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) 
>>>> Total
>>>> Cost (Cost per time period)
>>>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.6 0.06546 1.57104 191.66688
>>>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.6 0.06942 1.66608 103.29696
>>>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.6 0.04692 1.12608 204.94656
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grand Total 499.9104
>>>> Even if you machine used half the power you specified it would still be
>>>> about twice what you thought it was.
>>>>
>>>> I always recommend that people don't use their old computers when it
>>>> comes to use cases like using them for routers  because it's MUCH cheaper
>>>> to buy something like a PI or a dedicated router than it is pay for power
>>>> to feel a machine that uses waaay more than you need to.
>>>> With a raspberry pi under worst case useage with it being use to 100%
>>>> capacity you'd only get charged $6.32 per year, but it would most likely be
>>>> closer to it's idling cost of $2.82 for power:
>>>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per
>>>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) 
>>>> Total
>>>> Cost (Cost per time period)
>>>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.0076 0.00082916 0.01989984 2.42778048
>>>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.0076 0.00087932 0.02110368 1.30842816
>>>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.0076 0.00059432 0.01426368
>>>> 2.59598976
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grand Total 6.3321984
>>>>
>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>
>>>> On 7/21/21 3:50 PM, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Back when I ran a home server on my Athlon X2 with 1500 W supply, the 
>>>> machine never drew that much. Even with several disks spinning, 8 VMWare 
>>>> instances going and a few other goodies, that machine never drew more than 
>>>> 600w at maximum. I kept it live 24/7 for a few years and it added less 
>>>> than $120 yearly to the electrical bill. These days, that machine is out 
>>>> of service and is only good for parts. My Mac mini, which draws at most 
>>>> 100 W under full load is on 24/7 and I don’t even see it add that much to 
>>>> the electrical bill here. There are really only 3 high draw appliances in 
>>>> this house now:
>>>> 1. The refrigerator
>>>> 2. The stove/oven
>>>> 3. The master cool evaporative cooler. Everything else either runs on wall 
>>>> warts or only gets used occasionally. In fact, we spend less than $150 a 
>>>> month here for electric. Now, if I put that Athlon X2 back into service, 
>>>> we might see $10 a month in extra use. I am still contemplating putting it 
>>>> back up and using it as my go to linux development machine.
>>>>
>>>> -Eric
>>>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Utilities Dept.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
>>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server from 
>>>> home:
>>>>
>>>> Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying around doing 
>>>> nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost of 
>>>> powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very expensive. A 250W 
>>>> desktop computer running 24 hours per day at 12 cents per KW/h is a 
>>>> whopping $262.00 per year!
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> I think their math is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> The average residential electricity rate in Chandler is 10.85¢/kWh.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking a low traffic PHP web server running on an old Dell with a 
>>>> 400 watt power supply is not using but maybe 100 watts on average.  I've 
>>>> read that the computer should use no more than half the power supply 
>>>> capacity.  Is this correct?
>>>>
>>>> If my home web server is using 100 watts an hour that mean 100 watts * 30 
>>>> days * 24 hours or 72K watts.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking 72 * .1085 = $7.81 a month.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts are much appreciated.
>>>>
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>>> Stephen
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