Dreamhost is suffering a lot of security issues and they have been getting their users blanket banned by "security" companies. So every time someone forgets to update WordPress, your site is going to end up on a Force point bulletin, and all your users are going to get a big red "DONOTGOHERE" warning from Chrome. They also provide no support for this, so you are on your own with arguing with someone in Thailand that you don't deserve to be on their malicious website list that inexplicably is being used by the government to decide who is and who is not a bad actor.

On 7/23/21 9:35 AM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
I am curious, they have treated me very well over the years.


On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:29 AM Matthew Gibson via PLUG-discuss <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Is Dreamhost a terrible abuser of privacy?

    On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:24 AM Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Please use literally anyone but Dreamhost.

        On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:13 AM, Stephen Partington via
        PLUG-discuss <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        
        I hit send too soon, All of this hosting aside. I have 3
        dedicated servers, one is a dual Xeon server with 80-some GB
        ram, it runs as a VM host for all sorts of things for me. and
        2 mac mini's one is a windows server (I know but
        professionally speaking this is a good thing for me to keep
        in touch with). and the other is a linux server. they are a
        great low-power solution. (look for older 2012 models if you
        go this route)


        On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:09 AM Stephen Partington
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            For cost/efficiency, it is hard to beat some of the
            online hosting options. Dreamhost has a shared plan with
            unlimited everything and a domain for 9 per month (down
            to 3 for 1 or 3 years paid upfront) 10 per month Ifor a VPS.

            On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 3:45 PM Brian Cluff via
            PLUG-discuss <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I think you'll find that server of yours used closer
                to $500 than $120. Based on the 600watt number that
                you gave your usage would look like this on SRP right
                now under their normal flat rate plan:
                Months  Number of Days  Kwh Cost        Machine Load in
                Kilo watts      Cost per hour(KWH cost times wattage)
                Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours)       Total Cost
                (Cost per time period)
                May, Jun, Sep, Oct      122     0.1091  0.6     0.06546
                1.57104         191.66688
                Jul,Aug         62      0.1157  0.6     0.06942         1.66608 
        103.29696
                Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April  182     0.0782  0.6
                0.04692         1.12608         204.94656

                        
                        
                        
                        
                        Grand Total     499.9104


                Even if you machine used half the power you specified
                it would still be about twice what you thought it was.

                I always recommend that people don't use their old
                computers when it comes to use cases like using them
                for routers  because it's MUCH cheaper to buy
                something like a PI or a dedicated router than it is
                pay for power to feel a machine that uses waaay more
                than you need to.
                With a raspberry pi under worst case useage with it
                being use to 100% capacity you'd only get charged
                $6.32 per year, but it would most likely be closer to
                it's idling cost of $2.82 for power:
                Months  Number of Days  Kwh Cost        Machine Load in
                Kilo watts      Cost per hour(KWH cost times wattage)
                Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours)       Total Cost
                (Cost per time period)
                May, Jun, Sep, Oct      122     0.1091  0.0076  0.00082916
                0.01989984      2.42778048
                Jul,Aug         62      0.1157  0.0076  0.00087932      
0.02110368
                1.30842816
                Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April  182     0.0782  0.0076
                0.00059432      0.01426368      2.59598976

                        
                        
                        
                        
                        Grand Total     6.3321984



                Brian Cluff

                On 7/21/21 3:50 PM, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
                Back when I ran a home server on my Athlon X2 with 1500 W 
supply, the machine never drew that much. Even with several disks spinning, 8 
VMWare instances going and a few other goodies, that machine never drew more 
than 600w at maximum. I kept it live 24/7 for a few years and it added less 
than $120 yearly to the electrical bill. These days, that machine is out of 
service and is only good for parts. My Mac mini, which draws at most 100 W 
under full load is on 24/7 and I don’t even see it add that much to the 
electrical bill here. There are really only 3 high draw appliances in this 
house now:
                1. The refrigerator
                2. The stove/oven
                3. The master cool evaporative cooler. Everything else either 
runs on wall warts or only gets used occasionally. In fact, we spend less than 
$150 a month here for electric. Now, if I put that Athlon X2 back into service, 
we might see $10 a month in extra use. I am still contemplating putting it back 
up and using it as my go to linux development machine.

                -Eric
                 From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Utilities 
Dept.

                On Jul 21, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Keith Smith via 
PLUG-discuss<[email protected]>  
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                Hi,

                I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web 
server from home:

                Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying 
around doing nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost 
of powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very expensive. A 250W 
desktop computer running 24 hours per day at 12 cents per KW/h is a whopping 
$262.00 per year!

                ---
                I think their math is wrong.

                The average residential electricity rate in Chandler is 
10.85¢/kWh.

                I'm thinking a low traffic PHP web server running on an old 
Dell with a 400 watt power supply is not using but maybe 100 watts on average.  
I've read that the computer should use no more than half the power supply 
capacity.  Is this correct?

                If my home web server is using 100 watts an hour that mean 100 
watts * 30 days * 24 hours or 72K watts.

                I'm thinking 72 * .1085 = $7.81 a month.

                Any thoughts are much appreciated.

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