Is Dreamhost a terrible abuser of privacy? On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 9:24 AM Aaron Jones via PLUG-discuss < [email protected]> wrote:
> Please use literally anyone but Dreamhost. > > On Jul 23, 2021, at 8:13 AM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I hit send too soon, All of this hosting aside. I have 3 dedicated > servers, one is a dual Xeon server with 80-some GB ram, it runs as a VM > host for all sorts of things for me. and 2 mac mini's one is a windows > server (I know but professionally speaking this is a good thing for me to > keep in touch with). and the other is a linux server. they are a great > low-power solution. (look for older 2012 models if you go this route) > > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:09 AM Stephen Partington <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> For cost/efficiency, it is hard to beat some of the online hosting >> options. Dreamhost has a shared plan with unlimited everything and a domain >> for 9 per month (down to 3 for 1 or 3 years paid upfront) 10 per month Ifor >> a VPS. >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 3:45 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think you'll find that server of yours used closer to $500 than $120. >>> Based on the 600watt number that you gave your usage would look like this >>> on SRP right now under their normal flat rate plan: >>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per >>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) Total >>> Cost (Cost per time period) >>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.6 0.06546 1.57104 191.66688 >>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.6 0.06942 1.66608 103.29696 >>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.6 0.04692 1.12608 204.94656 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Grand Total 499.9104 >>> Even if you machine used half the power you specified it would still be >>> about twice what you thought it was. >>> >>> I always recommend that people don't use their old computers when it >>> comes to use cases like using them for routers because it's MUCH cheaper >>> to buy something like a PI or a dedicated router than it is pay for power >>> to feel a machine that uses waaay more than you need to. >>> With a raspberry pi under worst case useage with it being use to 100% >>> capacity you'd only get charged $6.32 per year, but it would most likely be >>> closer to it's idling cost of $2.82 for power: >>> Months Number of Days Kwh Cost Machine Load in Kilo watts Cost per >>> hour(KWH cost times wattage) Cost per day(Cost per hour time 24 hours) Total >>> Cost (Cost per time period) >>> May, Jun, Sep, Oct 122 0.1091 0.0076 0.00082916 0.01989984 2.42778048 >>> Jul,Aug 62 0.1157 0.0076 0.00087932 0.02110368 1.30842816 >>> Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, April 182 0.0782 0.0076 0.00059432 0.01426368 >>> 2.59598976 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Grand Total 6.3321984 >>> >>> Brian Cluff >>> >>> On 7/21/21 3:50 PM, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Back when I ran a home server on my Athlon X2 with 1500 W supply, the >>> machine never drew that much. Even with several disks spinning, 8 VMWare >>> instances going and a few other goodies, that machine never drew more than >>> 600w at maximum. I kept it live 24/7 for a few years and it added less than >>> $120 yearly to the electrical bill. These days, that machine is out of >>> service and is only good for parts. My Mac mini, which draws at most 100 W >>> under full load is on 24/7 and I don’t even see it add that much to the >>> electrical bill here. There are really only 3 high draw appliances in this >>> house now: >>> 1. The refrigerator >>> 2. The stove/oven >>> 3. The master cool evaporative cooler. Everything else either runs on wall >>> warts or only gets used occasionally. In fact, we spend less than $150 a >>> month here for electric. Now, if I put that Athlon X2 back into service, we >>> might see $10 a month in extra use. I am still contemplating putting it >>> back up and using it as my go to linux development machine. >>> >>> -Eric >>> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Utilities Dept. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 7:33 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just read this quote about the electrical costs to run a web server from >>> home: >>> >>> Cost: While it may sound cheaper to use that computer lying around doing >>> nothing when creating your web server, when you factor in the cost of >>> powering an old computer 24 hours a day, it can get very expensive. A 250W >>> desktop computer running 24 hours per day at 12 cents per KW/h is a >>> whopping $262.00 per year! >>> >>> --- >>> I think their math is wrong. >>> >>> The average residential electricity rate in Chandler is 10.85¢/kWh. >>> >>> I'm thinking a low traffic PHP web server running on an old Dell with a 400 >>> watt power supply is not using but maybe 100 watts on average. I've read >>> that the computer should use no more than half the power supply capacity. >>> Is this correct? >>> >>> If my home web server is using 100 watts an hour that mean 100 watts * 30 >>> days * 24 hours or 72K watts. >>> >>> I'm thinking 72 * .1085 = $7.81 a month. >>> >>> Any thoughts are much appreciated. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail >>> settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail >>> settings:https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> > > -- > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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