On 7/17/06, Cocoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snipped...]
like i said...
> > I dont agree. Thats what conventional wisdom says. There are ways > around that. Like how to hold a tooth brush is almost trivial to > teach. Current Interfaces are just not designed well. I blame WIMP in > particular. Its not a scalable ui architecture. my linux-based laptop was being used by a cousin. she isn't computer savvy. she wanted to play a video. and was complaining it was difficult to do it using my laptop. i told her it is suppose to be difficult. i built it using gentoo linux--- its suppose to be technical, it wasn't designed to be user friendly. on the same token, a linux based desktop--- another cousin wanted to browse the internet. all i had to do was point to her where the browser was and off she went. another instance-- i taught the same cousin to use my Mac. same thing, which is the browser, which is the instant messenger. never had to repeat an instruction. point is: normal people expect to be thought simple things. to you me and many people we might say thats just idiotic. but not everyone finds it easy to operate a computer. but once they get the hang of things--- it doens't even have to be that long, a few minutes of tutorial where things are or how to turn a basic feature on and off and they'll be fine.
Well at this level its ok. But the learning curve is still steep and every now and then you get confused right? You have to pause and think . I think people want to go fasterthan theygo now. Thats a major point. The ui needs to change. Of course if your happy the way things are Ihave no problem with that. complexity... Necessity...
> I use computers constantly. I hate files, directories, slow bootup > times, software wizrds,vi, configuration and a lot of other things. > They get in the way of my work. Writing software. MY boss agrees and > my father too but they just cant do anything about it. heck i agree--- most of the time gui slow things down. go commandline! ssh, vi and bash, no one can take those tools away! for the general population, they don't care. they want easy push button stuff. idiotic. yeah. its one of the problms of linux btw, we make code that fit our lifestyle. asthetics be damn because it just works, its fast. but like i said, 90% of people out there just don't see things that way because like it or not their specialty isn't computers or they have no talent like ours.
I think I need something easier than the commandline and less complex than the wimp gui. The old mac seems to get that right. The answer is there somewhere. I use vi and bash because i dont have a choice. Its fast and im used to it. But i hate to open multiple windows for each file i edit. Maybe there is a way to access multiple file effortlessly without switching windows? Opendoc? I use ion by the way and the application combination i have is pretty much complete. its i like it but thats only about 25% of the way. Funny how those macs bootup much quicker than our gigahertz processors. They used what... 8mhz processors?
> I am working with manets in the weekends and it just works. I dont > think networking should be that hard at all. Current ways of setting > up networking is just not acceptable. Even in a mac. zeroconf networking rocks. it works on my mac and i'd love it to just work in linux.
It also works fine in busybox form. except when you have both wireless and wired interfaces it will get confused. IPV6 actually have zeroconf capabilities. -- things i hate about my linux pc: 1. it takes more than a second to boot up 2. keeps asking about filenames and directories 3. does not remember what i was working on yesterday 4. does not remember all the changes i have ever made 5.cannot figure out necessary settings by itself _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
