On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Gabriel H. Mercado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> hey thanks joebert. These are super helpful real world problems and
> experiences that'll guide us.
>
> I expected issues with just games but there was no way anyone would have
> known of the other ones.
>
> I wanna move this to the next step. Ian and I are convinced this holds
> promise. Here are some thoughts on the matter.
>
>
>    - I wanna start a core group to get this project going. This group will
>    focus only on this, and will only be composed of members who can provide
>    help.
>    - After determining members, a decision has to be made re OS and apps
>    involved.
>    - Each version will be burnt on a bootable image and distributed to
>    beta testers.
>    - We will need a few beta testers.
>    - Someplace on the 'net to discuss revisions, issues, etc.
>    - One or two internet cafes to dry run it on.
>    - Once live, we need to host it somewhere, downloadable via torrent or
>    something like that.
>    - Update PLUG site (and whoever else is interested) re our progress.
>    Inform press once we've got version 1 going. <-- I'll take care of this.
>
> Frankly, I don't think it's realistic to assume we'll replace all machines
> in an internet cafe 100%. However, I assume even 10% or 25% would be very
> welcome to most business owners. An XP license is 5k+, so imagine the
> savings.
>
> I'm grateful guys like joebert are coming out of the woodwork to provide
> their experiences (I told you, Ian! :) I'm sure there are many others, so
> please pass this around to geeks out there quietly working on worthwhile
> icafe projects on their own.
>
> If you feel that you can contribute in any way, either via helping
> determine apps, actually making apps (the billing issue is scary) or even as
> a beta tester, please email me directly. I am assigning myself in charge of
> this project until it can stand alone by itself.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:35 AM, joebert jacaba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Theoretically a FOSS Internet Cafe sounds attractive. But when you
> > start doing it you encounter a lot of problems. So if there is a venue
> > to put the theory in to practice then all this problems can be sorted
> > out. I've been trying to help Cafe owners for free to have this setup
> > but get frustrated along the way.
> >
> > Here are some of the problems I encountered:
> >
> > 1. Drivers for built-in video cards (e.g. VIA) to handle 3D like
> > GoogleEarth. This is not a heavy 3D app. I ended up suggesting to buy
> > a cheap NVIDIA agp video card. It works but I'm not convince since you
> > need to shell out cash.
> >
> > 2. Flash plugin is not installed by default on Firefox. Well you may
> > say it is easy to install but put yourself coming from a windows world
> > where everything is as easy as point and click.
> >
> > 3. No yahoo messenger-like functionality. Kopete or Pidgin is good for
> > single user but not for multi-user. The hassle of adding accounts
> > before you can login. Installing gspca for the camera to work.


not really an app but an optional workaround.  use meebo for the messenger
functionality.


>
> >
> > 4. Cafe timer. Is there something that really works smooth and easy?
> >
> > 5. Games games games. Yeah StarCraft works but it's online gaming era.
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