On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Orlando Andico <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joebert, these enterprise applications are completely non-Free. So the
> people who wrote these applications have zero initiative to make them
> run on Free.
they insist on ignoring the open source as an initiative of course.
> You think Oracle DB EE cost is prohibitive? then you should look at
> the cost of SAP ERP... :-)
which is better then? does cost determine functionality? since SAP is
well known than Oracle in ERP to the enterprise in does that determine
cost?
> Of course there are open-source ERP such as SugarCRM. But a good ERP
> solution requires deep knowledge of business rules and transactions.
> For say a car manufacturer, that's not knowhow you can pick up off the
> street.
>
> The Free software model has worked well for baseline infrastructure
> because there's enough skillset out there that the "many eyeballs"
> approach works. But as you go up the value chain, more and more domain
> knowledge is required and Free starts falling apart.
it is baseline today. but it is building up and the value chain i
believe will collapse in the future.
> Let's even look at MySQL Cluster -- the main architect, Mikael
> Ronstrom, is a Ph.D. and has devoted the past 15 years of his life to
> developing MySQL Cluster. He didn't start out in Free software, he
> just had a dream. Good for him Ericsson, MySQL, and now Sun are
> willing to pay his salary so he can chase his dream. But the
> algorithms in MySQL Cluster are sufficiently complex that there isn't
> a large community helping him build it -- it's still mostly Mikael.
>
> Clearly, that's one instance where I think the Free way of software
> development has fallen short.
>
With someone willing to pay your salary or not, nothing should limit
you from achieving your dream. I guess we need more Mikael then.
> The open card network is a non-starter. Anyone who's worked in
> financial services here knows that a single bank is already a study in
> conservatism. Consider that American Express is a distant third place
> to Mastercard and Visa. A lot of places here in PH don't even accept
> American Express. How a "fourth party" "open card network" would do
> better than Amex which has been around for 30+ years, eludes my
> comprehension.
because that is revolution is all about. making conventional thinking obsolete.
> Guess what... Free software support companies such as Red Hat and
> Novell/SuSE also use a variant of this as a marketing tool ("our
> billion-dollar company will GUARANTEE that your Free software is up to
> snuff!")
we need more companies like RedHat or Novell/Suse then. :)
> The fact that people buy into it means that the proposition has value.
> Maybe the systems you're familiar with aren't critical enough (or
> produce enough money) that you can't see the value..
>
yes i don't see money as the first bulletpoint to value.
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