On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Orlando Andico <[email protected]> wrote:
> Merely pointing out that Oracle is far from the only or worst offender > in the "charge 'em high!" software sweepstakes. at least you admitted that indeed they charge high. > Oracle also does contribute quite a lot to the Linux kernel (around > 4th ranked I believe) including BtrFS and AIO. > commendable! > .. > A common fallacy. While it is true that the baseline is continually > going up, the value-add is also going up. the gap may not really close but it will be closer and closer. the future will be the judge. > There are simply some areas > of expertise that nobody would want to do in their free time. > leaving some areas of expertise that somebody would like to do in their free time as well. > .. > Yes but my dream is to have a nice-enough life, a couple kids, etc. still not nice-enough life? > i don't want to devote 15 years of my life pursuing a utopian > (dystopian?) dream. ok your choice. > Richard Stallman had his MacArthur Prize for him to live off the > interest of so he doesn't need another job. he's deserving anyway. > Finland has a cradle-to-grave social security system and so Linux > could "petiks" all throughout college and grad school while working on > his baby Linux. > I am not denigrating these people's contributions. But they mostly > came from First World countries that could afford to subsidize their > dreams. I don't see that much in the way of OSS contributors locally. it is easy to blame the country eh. wouldn't it be more exciting to do a Linus while in the Philippines? > An old friend of mine, Gerard Java, wrote a piece of software that's > literally in every Linux distribution - iptraf. I'm sure you've heard > of it. > > Where is he now? in Canada. Because this country couldn't give him a > comfortable-enough livelihood. So what did iptraf get him? I don't > know. Andre Varon (andrelst) is also a friend of his. He's also in > Canada. > they have their reasons. i don't earn as much as you but i can say im having a comfortable-enough livelihood. i think its not what will you get from giving but how many got it and make use of it. > .. > Motherhood statement. > > As a previous sender mentioned, this thread is getting nowhere. Yes, > you ARE not open-minded, Joebert. > you are a participant to this thread dont forget. you are not open-minded, Orly. > .. > Do you know how much money they charge? > > I'm not laughing. > i dont cause im not paying. > BTW I don't have my own business like Johann does. Tried that, open > source advocacy and solutioning. Didn't fly. We ran out of cash. Bad > business mindedness. get rich first then go back to back to advocacy. > I work for Larry Ellison. While that may in your eyes mark me as a > shill, I don't see it that way. i like Larry Ellison until he got married. > Whether you're working in open or > closed source, you can and do contribute to the community. i dont doubt your contributions sir. > And, being on the other side of the fence has showed me how much > talent and effort there is. Closed source companies are not parasites > or "conventional thinking" to be overthrown. I truly believe that most > innovation happens in closed source companies, simply because they > have the funds to invest in new ways of thinking, new technology. > > in a way Ballmer was right -- that closed-source companies do most of > the innovation. He was wrong in claiming that Microsoft did most of > the innovation. > > If you disagree, please give some examples of software innovation > which truly came from the Free software community. > i agree. software patents? _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph

