On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:25 PM, joebert jacaba <[email protected]> wrote:
..
>> You think Oracle DB EE cost is prohibitive? then you should look at
>> the cost of SAP ERP... :-)
>
> which is better then? does cost determine functionality? since SAP is
> well known than Oracle in ERP to the enterprise in does that determine
> cost?
Merely pointing out that Oracle is far from the only or worst offender
in the "charge 'em high!" software sweepstakes.
Oracle also does contribute quite a lot to the Linux kernel (around
4th ranked I believe) including BtrFS and AIO.
..
>> The Free software model has worked well for baseline infrastructure
>> because there's enough skillset out there that the "many eyeballs"
>> approach works. But as you go up the value chain, more and more domain
>> knowledge is required and Free starts falling apart.
>
> it is baseline today. but it is building up and the value chain i
> believe will collapse in the future.
A common fallacy. While it is true that the baseline is continually
going up, the value-add is also going up. There are simply some areas
of expertise that nobody would want to do in their free time.
..
> With someone willing to pay your salary or not, nothing should limit
> you from achieving your dream. I guess we need more Mikael then.
Yes but my dream is to have a nice-enough life, a couple kids, etc.
i don't want to devote 15 years of my life pursuing a utopian
(dystopian?) dream.
Richard Stallman had his MacArthur Prize for him to live off the
interest of so he doesn't need another job.
Finland has a cradle-to-grave social security system and so Linux
could "petiks" all throughout college and grad school while working on
his baby Linux.
I am not denigrating these people's contributions. But they mostly
came from First World countries that could afford to subsidize their
dreams. I don't see that much in the way of OSS contributors locally.
An old friend of mine, Gerard Java, wrote a piece of software that's
literally in every Linux distribution - iptraf. I'm sure you've heard
of it.
Where is he now? in Canada. Because this country couldn't give him a
comfortable-enough livelihood. So what did iptraf get him? I don't
know. Andre Varon (andrelst) is also a friend of his. He's also in
Canada.
..
How a "fourth party" "open card network" would do
>> better than Amex which has been around for 30+ years, eludes my
>> comprehension.
>
> because that is revolution is all about. making conventional thinking
> obsolete.
Motherhood statement.
As a previous sender mentioned, this thread is getting nowhere. Yes,
you ARE not open-minded, Joebert.
..
>> Guess what... Free software support companies such as Red Hat and
>> Novell/SuSE also use a variant of this as a marketing tool ("our
>> billion-dollar company will GUARANTEE that your Free software is up to
>> snuff!")
>
> we need more companies like RedHat or Novell/Suse then. :)
Do you know how much money they charge?
I'm not laughing.
BTW I don't have my own business like Johann does. Tried that, open
source advocacy and solutioning. Didn't fly. We ran out of cash. Bad
business mindedness.
I work for Larry Ellison. While that may in your eyes mark me as a
shill, I don't see it that way. Whether you're working in open or
closed source, you can and do contribute to the community.
And, being on the other side of the fence has showed me how much
talent and effort there is. Closed source companies are not parasites
or "conventional thinking" to be overthrown. I truly believe that most
innovation happens in closed source companies, simply because they
have the funds to invest in new ways of thinking, new technology.
in a way Ballmer was right -- that closed-source companies do most of
the innovation. He was wrong in claiming that Microsoft did most of
the innovation.
If you disagree, please give some examples of software innovation
which truly came from the Free software community.
--
Orlando Andico
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