On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Orlando Andico <[email protected]> wrote:

> The reason why closed-source companies charge for EVERY copy of their
> software, is because they need to money to:
>
> 1) develop NEW versions of the software with MORE features
>
oracle maybe yes but ms office.

> 2) pay their shareholders

the first sale could have paid them enough.

> I don't think anybody will deny that everybody needs a decent
> livelihood. Guess what... closed-source employees like myself also
> need a decent livelihood. And the shareholders in these companies
> deserve a decent return on their investment.
>
> If you put your money in a company, or the bank, would you be happy if
> it paid no interest, no return? Hmmmm.

of course not. its the reason why you have decided to in the first
place. if your purpose is to donate it then its a different story.

>
> Nobody will deny that non-Free software costs money. But companies
> will only charge what the market is willing to pay. Since the market
> is willing to pay Oracle, SAP, IBM, Microsoft, Infor, and God knows
> who else, then there is nothing immoral about charging those prices.
> And the market is willing to pay because they get something for it.

lets influence the market to pay less and less then.

> That "something" may not resonate with Joebert or RMS but it does mean
> something to these companies.
>
> Let's not forget that all those great innovations that RMS slavishly
> re-implemented (his beloved gcc, grep, etc ad infinitum) all came out
> of Bell Labs, which (yes it was a Free software culture) was
> bankrolled by the largest, most monopolistic company in history, AT&T.

if oracle is willing to bankroll an a rewrite or show code perhaps in
free terms i dont have a problem with that.

> And let's see... the Unix desktop (GNOME and KDE) have been sapping
> developer resources for over 10 years.. that's almost a generation...
> and still get bitch-slapped by MacOS X. There really are some things
> that a "many eyeballs" Free approach isn't good at addressing.

im satisfied with GNOME. i can't afford a mac anyway. so bitch-slapped
will not apply to me and to many others i think.

> You don't get something for nothing.

i get my ubuntu desktop for nothing.

> And in my opinion, the price of continued innovation in software, is
> having to pay for (at least some) of it.
>
someday innovation will come without a price.
>
> Anyway back off my soapbox. And back to my evil Closed-Source job that
> pays the bills. And incidentally helps a lot of people in this
> country, by enabling companies and government agencies to do their
> jobs better.

it is expected to help a lot of people in the country. taxes are spent
paying the license isn't it. if its free then you get an award just
like RMS did. ;)
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