I don't think cheating will be done on the technical level, as there are going to be very few who can pull that off. If there's any cheating to be done, it will be through ghost precincts and ghost votes. Therefore, someone needs to monitor the voter's count vs. Voter's list, monitor against statistical improbabilities. What is bad is due to statistical improbabilities, they can declare machines to be faulty. Also i think it would be easier to switch returns in the server than at the precinct level. Therefore votes per precinct needs to be published immediately before sending to server, and the server data should be made online for each precinct to authenticate. However, this still does not solve the problem of having ghost precincts.
On 7/15/09, Pablo Manalastas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Let's schedule the chat session at a convenient time for most people in > PLUG. Which day/time do you suggest? > > //PManalastas > > > --- On Tue, 7/14/09, fooler mail <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: fooler mail <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [plug] Code Review & SysAdmin of Election 2010 Computers >> To: "Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List" >> <[email protected]> >> Cc: "Marvin Villanueva" <[email protected]>, "Pablo Manalastas" >> <[email protected]>, "Elsa Gines" <[email protected]>, "Felix Muga" >> <[email protected]>, "Fidel dela Torre" <[email protected]>, "Edwin >> Tuazon" <[email protected]>, "Evi Jimenez" <[email protected]>, "Bob >> Tuazon" <[email protected]>, "Felix Muga" <[email protected]>, "Rosa >> Castillo" <[email protected]>, "Rodellyn Mañalac" >> <[email protected]>, "Vicky Avena" <[email protected]>, "Unicka Sta Ana" >> <[email protected]> >> Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 3:41 PM >> 2009/7/13 Pablo Manalastas <[email protected]>: >> > >> > I volunteered as IT consultant for CenPEG, the Center >> for People Empowerment in Governance. This is a NGO, and >> it is engaged in a project to document and analyze the >> computerized 2010 elections. CenPEG is not against >> computerization. It is in favor of computerization, provided >> that appropriate safeguards are put in place to minimize >> possibilities of cheating. The CenPEG project has a >> website: >> > >> > http://www.aes2010.net/ >> > >> > This website is under development, so please expect >> new things to be added from time to time. >> > >> > CenPEG itself has a website: http://www.cenpeg.org/. >> >> >> doc.. i would like to help for the future of our country... >> i strongly >> suggest to discuss this over a chat server where everybody >> can listen >> and interact.. there are lots of clarifications to asks but >> doing this >> in a mailing list will take more time... >> >> there are lots of issues to tackle... these are few issues >> to start with... >> >> 1. we know that in manual election... cheating are done >> during >> transporting of ballots (switching) and manipulation of >> canvas at the >> higher level.. this can be done also in automated system >> where i can >> see they can switch code during the transport of machines >> to precincts >> and switch it back to a clean one upon surrending the >> machines to >> comelec... >> >> 2. private key must be protected by using passphrase... >> even if the >> private key was stolen by the cheaters.. they cannot create >> a new ER >> and sign those fake ERs as only the owner of the key knows >> how to >> unlock it... but how the public/private key pair is >> going to create? >> during the election time or before? on or before election >> time have >> pros and cons and need to tackle this one also... >> >> 3. sending of data thru 3G networks - there are places in >> the >> philippines where there are no 3G signals in there.. only >> 2.5G signal >> and below such as GSM, GPRS (114kbps) or EDGE (236kbps) .. >> these are >> slow bandwidth... you can do the math how big is the data >> to be >> transmitted over these slow networks.. 1000 voters per >> machine times >> the average size of TIFF image plus the votes, logs and >> others.. >> >> 4. why still following the old fashion way of counting >> where ERs bring >> to municipal/provincial/congressional canvassers where >> cheating and >> manupilation are done there? why not ERs directly bring to >> the main >> canvassers in NCR as computers quickly count this and the >> results are >> just a few seconds away... ERs send to comelec, namfrel, >> and to a >> pubic server where others can do unofficial counting for >> parallel >> counting... >> >> there are lot more and i know there are solutions for the >> above >> issues... if you can suggest a chatting time and the name >> of a server >> where to login so that pluggers and IT group from CenPEG >> can interact >> with each other to tackle these issues very well... if >> there is a web >> based chat client to use.. much better so that others on >> mobile can >> join also... >> >> fooler. >> _________________________________________________ >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >> > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > -- Sent from my mobile device Kelsey Hartigan Go Registered Linux user #5998 _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
