I am just wondering, given the fact, let's say, we got some TRO of some sort, do we still have time to do it? How many of us here, can go with source code review then if Comelec will allow us to review source code publicly? Though I believe in our capability as Filipinos and most of the people here are best of breed, I'm just checking since we are running out of time. How long can Supreme Court can interfere with this? Let's say, 2 mos. from now, can we still have much time?
Regards, Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: Danny Ching <[email protected]> To: Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Technical Discussion List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 5:59:33 PM Subject: Re: [plug] COMELEC SUED (Was: The Death of Election 2010 Source Code Review) Very true. Unfortunately, I do not trust the programmers if I cannot check their work. The purpose of source code validation is not to check the computer or it's software's trustworthiness. A computer will do what it's told. It is human corruption I'm worried about. Of course outside of computers that is a different problem altogether. I just don't want people blaming computerization for failure of elections. Regards, Danny Ching On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected]> wrote: > What you mean is the trustworthiness of the people running the system. > > I'll say one thing from my experience, you can't use the system to > arrest > human corruption. > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Danny Ching <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I think I see where you are coming from. It is not the system we are >> worried about sir. It is the trustworthiness of the system. A simple >> exposure of the code will show that it is not doing anything out of >> the ordinary. Besides. If the code is indeed simple as you said, then >> checking the cource code should be easy. >> >> Regards, >> Danny Ching >> >> >> On Oct 12, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> A tester does not need to know about programming to test and accept >>> a System. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM, fooler mail <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Oscar Plameras <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Remember, Election Automation Software is one of the easiest to >>>>> develop. >>>>> It is "Count and Tally", nothing complicated and convoluted. >>>> >>>> true.. BUT... the purpose of source code review is to examine if >>>> there >>>> is something beyond the count and tally thing which cannot be >>>> seen by >>>> your simulation test.. as what danny said - TRIGGERS.. >>>> >>>> special keyboard hotkey, special packets, special ER and others to >>>> trigger the manipulation of votes to do the dagdag-bawas scheme... >>>> >>>> fooler. >>>> _________________________________________________ >>>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>>> >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >> _________________________________________________ >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >> > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
