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> I recommend the following setup for the mailing lists, and if this can be
> validated by other PLUGgers, then maybe we can write up "official
> documentation" in the lists.q-linux.org page since most, if not all,
> subscriptions go through that, anyway.
>
> o ph-linux-newbie - the PH Linux Newbie mailing list, a place for newbies
> to hangout and ask Linux-related questions, or at the most,
> hardware-related questions to getting Linux to work. No fucked up
> Windows questions, and no BSD or Solaris questions that should go to
> the BSD or Solaris mailing lists, or at the worst, in PLUG as an OT.
>
agree.
> o plug - the main _technical_ Philippine Linux Users' Group hangout. This
> is where not-so-newbies, not-so-oldbies, and established oldies will
> hopefully hangout to keep them sharp. It's a place to talk about
> technical isses that relate to Linux, or Linux together with something
> else (so Orly's Linux + Solaris and LDAP shouldn't be an OT in PLUG).
> This is also where people can ask decently off-topic technical issues,
> like maybe a little about BSD or something. But hopefully we can keep
> these down. Bottomline: TECHNICAL.
>
agree. let it not be just pure linux. let's sprinkle it with *nix stuff
like freebsd to keep it's taste from being bland. now if only i can dial-in
to comclark's servers...
> o plug-misc - the auxiliary Philippine Linux Users' Group hangout, for
> all non-technical discussions that the community wishes to discuss.
> While our Sacha and chocolate threads are a little too much for
> PLUG-misc and I apologize for starting these, we can diverge a little
> here if we have to (and most of the time we have to, or we won't have
> lives to talk about). This is also where we handle plenary talks on
> things like when and where PLUG should meet, or on who handles which
> advocacy teams, or what schools we'll be hauling to the dark side.
> Bottomline: non-technical discussions that the community needs to
> handle online.
>
agree.
> o #PLUG @ upcm.net - an online hangout, the true anything goes in real
> time. No rules other than the basics.
>
>
> Rationale:
>
> We already have too many mailing lists, I think, and the more we
> diversify, the more people will stick to the "main" PLUG list and ask
> everything there. As it is I don't think enough people are in PLUG-misc
> because it started as a "Sacha mailing list". That wasn't a bad start but
who is Sacha?
> like Ian said, we have to move on. And in moving on I think we should make
> PLUG our community mailing list. Let's keep the discussions in the main
> PLUG list at the technical level. (I don't think gender statistic
> questions are supposed to go away. They are significant to the community
> and can healthily go on in PLUG-misc).
>
> Comments?
>
> > btw, I have a suggestion if we do online voting for issues
>
> We have yet to see Chris's reports on how many of the online
> pre-registrants actually went, but I have a feeling a significant chunk of
> pre-registrants were bogus. We cannot possibly tolerate such bogus entries
> in an online voting setup. How do we get around this? I have some initial
> thoughts.
>
> First let's focus on getting ourselves SEC registered. It's been too long.
>
> Then let's meet to elect a new set of officers. Those who cannot be
> present should be able to send their votes in in advanced, perhaps PGP
> signed (so get GnuPG everyone, hehehe).
>
or is there a local CA here? that would be bogus entrie as low as possible.
> With the new set of officers perhaps we can discuss issues like
> membership. I do not know whether we should get a nominal membership fee
requiring membership fee will stunt the growth of linux here. concentrate
on making it grow first.
no even after years since the start of the Internet here the linux community
is still not known and small. unless i'm mistaken schools here are still
m$-centric even if they can hardly afford it. correct me if i'm wrong.
> to keep the organization alive, but I think we need to have a database of
> official members, with or without payments.
>
> Why?
>
> o So that we know who to call to meetings.
> o So that we know who can vote.
> o So that we know who to give @linux.org.ph addresses when we can handle
> it.
>
> Note that I don't mean to limit mailing list membership to members. But we
> should limit voting to members. The org is the org. The mailing list is
> the mailing list. PLUG the org != the collection of mailing lists. Until
> we make this clear we'll forever be a bunch of geeks geeking it out in the
> mailing lists. I doubt we'll get much done as a coherent body. (Although
> Linux10 was great, much more has to be done so that the next conferences
> will be handled with more unity so that less people like Chris will have
> to go 48 hours without sleep).
>
agree.
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