On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 at 15:40, Robert DC. Reyes wrote:
> i know this is kinda OT, but i've been receiving my PLUG emails kinda
> delayed by some hours. The one i posted regarding the SMS gateway was
> sent, on my PC, this morning at around 0700LT,but i only received my
> posted copy now, it's around 1530LT na!

I reported this awhile ago, too. Well, not really "awhile" ago. But fairly
recent. Especially on peak hours mail can take ages (ie: a few hours) to
get delivered. Dek and I were suspecting concurrency problems with the
MTA, as the received headers were showing that up to before the outbound
MTA, mail was getting handled quickly.

We offered our help (at least I did) for free especially since the Q-Linux
guys are using Postfix, but the Q-Linux team said they have everything
under control as far as the MTA's concurrency is concerned.

According to them it's a bandwidth problem. Since they moved to a new
office their bandwidth's been used for a -LOT- of outbound mail for
various clients and it's obviously giving in under the weight. I don't
know if they already have MRTG up and running to actually get bandwidth
monitoring results, but let's trust these guys, I'm sure they know their
thing. It's their line of work, after all. And they're fellow PLUGgers.

I believe there are a number of ways those of us who can afford can help:

1. Donate bandwidth to Q-Linux. Benefits: well, hopefully this will be
significant enough for us to see significant improvement in mail delivery
during peak hours. But then because Q-Linux is a for-profit company that
services other companies, it's hard to classify donations.

2. Donate a server, physical space, and bandwidth for PLUG (can be
colocated at say ... Inter.Net or MozCom). This obviously entails a much
larger initial outlay. But when you think about it, the bandwidth will
only have to manage PLUG (and other possible PLUG-hosted) mail. Plus PLUG
can finally manage its domain again, can manage its own mail and unburden
Q-Linux, allowing them to focus on their core business, and can even
provide mail forwarding address (or actual mail storage accessible via
POP3-SSL and IMAP-SSL depending on availability of disk space) for duly
registered paying PLUG members. Diba diba? In return the donater can get
... Marvin meron bang tax cuts pag donation? ;>

I've actually been trying to set up some decent mailing list server (ie:
Mailman) here just to test how things go with one up, but for the life of
me can't figure out some setuid problem that's messing things up. I've
decided that since I can't set up a decent mailing list server, I might as
well stop complaining. And like Eric Pareja told me, not everyone sits in
front of their MUA all day waiting for PLUG mail to get in. But I still
maintain that it would be great to have instantaneous turnaround. But then
beggars can't be choosers, right? Q-Linux is just doing us a favor hosting
our lists. And I know it costs them. We probably eat up quite a bit of
resources with all our chit-chat (that Doc Mana so adequately described as
a downpour).

> why is that happening? is it a problem with my mail server (ISP), or is
> it at the mailing list server?

No it's not you. It's with the "mailing list server" in general, but more
specifically is with the bandwidth and/or the concurrency limits of the
outbound mail transfer agent. Inbound mail doesn't seem to have problems
(as expected, it doesn't get half as much inbound mail as those it has to
resend, does it?).

 --> Jijo

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