On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:15:19PM +0800, Migs Paraz wrote (wyy sez):
> On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 06:24:35PM +0800, Federico Sevilla III wrote:
> > Neat! I wonder, though, why Python is in the list of web application
> > development languages when in reality it's a general-purpose programming
> > language, 
> 
> Perhaps due to the association with ZOPE?
>
this is certainly why. i do not really know python that much. i simply
added it because of all butch's(very effective and interesting) sales talk.

however, i never really looked into the language so i cannot really say
anything about it. also, in the other papers and sources i used for this
talk python was not really mentioned. (at least, not yet)
 
> > and has a place (IMHO) at least in systems/network glue coding,
> > and perhaps even in large scale and complex applications.
> 
> Let us recruit more pythonistas ;)
> (upm.edu.ph seems to be down now, though)
> 
hehehe. i learning the joys of kdevelop! BEAUTIFUL and uses the GNU development
tool chains and CVS. amazing! however, my kdevelop here seems to be broken.
i think it is time for me to do a reinstall. hmmmm. nah!

i am using a RedHat 7.2 system here in the dorm and boy has KDE 2.2 gone
a long way. i even saw some snapshots of KDE 3.0 and wow! 

kdevelop is also cool since it is not limited to developing KDE/QT apps.
it can also be used for GNOME apps (like glade),  command-line apps and
even knoqueror plug-ins. ubercoolness!

> > And IMHO Python is a -VERY- good introductory programming language, for CS
> > majors and non-CS majors. I'm enjoying it very much. :)
> 
> Shall we add the functional programming features?
> 
hahaha. just use haskell and bust your brains out. hahaha.

> > Also, about the Collaborative Development Tools section: what do you guys
> > think of Savannah <http://savannah.gnu.org/>, the alternative to
> > SourceForge(tm)? Eric Pareja's been mentioning this in chat recently, so I
> > just thought I'd mention it here.
> 
> I think most Pinoys are just Savannah or Sourceforge members just to 
> download sources or join mailing lists.  Is anyone here active in any
> project?
> 
hmmm. have not heard of that yet will check it out.

> > > also take note that you still have to release the code in source format.
> > > once you "sell" the said software.
> > 
> > But you -can- sell it, right? It's just that you have to sell it complete
> > with the source code. And of course whoever you sold it to can sell it
> > again and not give any royalties to you, which I think really makes this
> > "selling" instead of just selling.
> 
> Well, that's if you treat the software as a fixed product.
> Now, if you see it as a means to deliver services, or solve business 
> problems, then the sale goes on even if the software is given away.
>

;-)
 
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