From: "Andy Sy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Please... acquire some common sense. What I meant is that > Stallman has, for the longest time, staunchly discouraged > people from adopting O.S. licenses other than the GPL using > language that is virtually categorical in its dismissal > of their value (as is so obvious from the GNU site -unless > he made an about face and changed what he wrote there as > well- plus his arguments in other situations like in his > debate with ESR). That Ogg Vorbis episode is tantamount to > an admission that he was wrong but instead of saying so > outright, he covers it up with some rationale (in a > quasi-hypocritical manner, kind of like how you've been > been presenting your arguments) about doing it for the > "common good". I just checked the GNU site and came across http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html and http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html and perhaps in these essays, RMS tries to sound like a reasonable moderate (using a couple of thousand words of condescending reasoning)... but the overall impression/gut feel I get is that deep down inside he doesn't truly believe in the merit of these other OS licenses and that he just 'acknowledges' them/pays them lip service to avoid being cast as an extremist or be seen as uncooperative/dictatorial. RMS is a master of doubletalk (can't help but see the leftist connection again). He tries to sound reasonable and civilized, and sneakily uses words to try to make it look like he is in a more morally ascendant position: http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0520.rms.html ======================================================= "This is why I keep butting my head against bias, calumny, and grief. They hurt my feelings, but when successful, this effort helps the GNU Project campaign for freedom." PUH-LEEZ!!! enough with the drama... as if he isn't the one with the hard head and giving grief most of the time. Back when Guido Van Rossum wanted to make the Python license GPL-compatible and narrated the experience with the FSF on the Python website, it was obvious they found it an extremely frustrating task and had to deal with a lot of nitpicking. Thankfully, they did eventually succeed, but I'm pretty certain they were not at all amused by what they had to go through. ====================================================== , but his actions betray his words: http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0508.rms.html In the end, he really chooses his ego over making things easier for other people. Anyway, this has been going on too long already. I just want people to understand why I feel the way I do about RMS and see that I am not just engaging in idle character assasination. Reading the stuff at www.gnu.org made me feel all warm and nice the first time I encountered it but the other stuff I've been reading lately has made me realize that RMS is all too human (and has yet to realize it). _ Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
