On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 06:08:17PM +0800, JM Ibanez wrote: > [Disclaimer: I'm being a Devil's Advocate here. I'm all for the Linux ] > > The point of the article was that, as a point of comparison, out of > the box (more or less), XP performs better than a Linux desktop, also, > on a feature-by-feature comparison (i.e. with the same services and > capabilities and, yes, eye candy), an XP desktop will be faster and > responsive compared to the a Linux desktop. > > So, this is not an option. Just as there are ways to tune a Windows XP > box, there are ways to tune a Linux box-- but that's not the point. >
Yes, I'm aware of the point. Didn't really go much into that XP stuff as I've quit using it (but only for desperate situations, such as standoffs;) Not that I don't like XP--I just don't like being *not* in control of my system. I'm not against the article per se; rather, I'm against the 'fattiness' of both systems and the implication that Linux can't be made any slimmer... > > solution would be to inform people of the hows (and whys) of the Un*x > > system and its structure as opposed to Windows (and perhaps other > > OSes). That way, people would begin to understand the little > > 'eccentricites' that pervade each OS, and (hopefully) make their own > > decisions as to fixing, tuning and customizing their Linux system. > > Again, the question was "out of the box" experience. > > For example, why does Linux seem to want to swap out my apps > immediately? Yes, I know about 2.6's /proc/sys/vm/swappiness, but the > behavior "out of the box" is perceived to be 'wrong'. There are as > many reasons for doing it that way, as there are reasons for *not* > doing it that way and, IMO, neither side is right nor wrong. > Are you sure your swap's configured correctly? I run 2.6.7 and even under heavy load, it doesn't swap (heavy load characterized as: multiple instances of OO.o, mozilla, mozilla-firefox, mozilla-firebird, xchat, gimp, gnome2.6 and xfce4 in 4 xnests, several gnome-terminals, not to mention apache, mysql, exim, spamd) in my 256M memory configuration (the heaviest use being 120M when doing all the above plus compiling the kernel and having tiger and aide doing their checks, plus playing music with jackd -R ;) YMMV... > > > > I was fortunate enough to be aware of one thing: > > DOCUMENTATION. doc-linux-* and the rest stashed in /usr/share/doc/ are > > lifesavers. USE THEM ;) They'll save you more than an apt-get or a > > full reload: rtfm, rtfm, rtfm. > > <stereotype>And most people will expect that the system will JUST WORK > without having to RTFM. "Windows JUST WORKS (almost, barely, kinda). > OS X JUST WORKS (hell yeah). Linux JUST... err... RTFM?"</stereotype> > That could be true, though. But honestly, what's wrong with that? Don't everything Just Works(TM) by *following instructions*? Cheers, Zakame -- |=-------------ZAK B. ELEP (Registered Linux User #327585)-------------=| || Web: http://zakame.spunge.org GPG ID: 0xFA53851D || || http://zakame.homelinux.org ICQ UIN: 33236644 || || Location: Daet, Camarines Norte Running Linux 2.6 || |=----------1486 7957 454D E529 E4F1 F75E 5787 B1FD FA53 851D----------=| Debian - When you've got better things to do than to fix a borken system -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug . Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie
