that's a nice ay of loking at things sir roger... and you are right! On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:14:03 +0800, Roger Filomeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okey, i got the chance to sit down and have coffee with a friend last > night who is totally MS dev and we had these discussions: > > Opensource is screwed more towards service oriented market, while MS > is screwed towards product oriented market. > > If i develop under MS, i usually build applications for distribution. > It is important that the features, ideas and technology of the product > is protected, thats why they are distributed as compiled binary > packages w/ licenses to protect the source code and the technology > used. The tools i use are costly since they provide the abstraction > between MS OS and my applications, these tools are required so MS can > protect their source code/technology but still allows other products > to run under MS; thats why we usually ask for the API - today we have > MSDN to take care of that (the new developers are lucky, we used to > hack our way into windows before) > > If i develop under OSS,i usually build services for use. These > services are mostly used by existing applications (OSS or MS) or to > provide new technologies and capabilites. These services are supported > by releasing opensource applications which OSS community may revise > and enchance. There is no danger in distributing technologies along > with these application under OSS since this would ensure that the > technology advances and mature faster allowing more diverse services > to be built using that technology; a mutual symbiosis. > > In short, MS dev needs to dominate/protect their sourcode and > tecnology to survive while OSS needs to share and innovate to survive. > > Thats why it's scary for an MS dev company to think that their latest > prorietary software be suddenly available to public - its their bread > and butter. Then here comes OSS who seems to be able to provide the > same technology at lower cost; the worst part is..OSS is giving away > these technologies for free. > > It is an innate nature of technology to be transferrable since we, the > technology users, needed to interact to survive. Its a universal law, > energy must be transfered in one form or another, same analogy goes > with technology and anything else. > > We always say in the security world that there is no such thing as > secure system, if there is a way to build something, there is always a > way to destroy it ( 4lph4 and 0m3g4 ;p). Even if how hard we try to > proctect and hold these technologies for our advantage, someone else > will always figure it out.. someone will always build a better one; > when this happens, we MS developers aways brand them as > copycats/"me-too"'s -- Well, that is like saying we believe are the > only ones in entire universe! (so what if there are other life out > there and they also have MS, can we sue? ;p). > > Let's not dwell too much in these subjects, the important thing is > that the dynamics between the battle of OSS and proprietary/MS exposes > new oppurtunities. i say let MS join the OSS scheme of things, it > would make the lives of developers much easier by being able to > reverse engineer MS better ;p (and ofcourse build better applications, > lower dev MS cost, & etc) > > Just our two cents worth. > > OT: im still looking for the API for winXP SP2 bluetooth stack. help. > > > -- > Roger P. Filomeno > Systems Developer > Finger Apps Inc, http://fingerapps.com > Systems Developer > Entertainment Gateway Group, http://egg.ph > > > -- > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) > Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph > Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph > .. > To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug > .. > Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to > http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie >
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